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PostSubject: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 2:18 am

Anyone ever try this in their tires?
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 6:31 am

Good stuff----works in tubeless or tubed type bike//scooter tires. Not cheap @$15 a small bottle. In addition to sealing small leaks---IS BALANCE MEDIUM. Many shops do not/cannot balance scooter tires and wheels.

I do own tire work, it saves playing with my static balance stand
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 7:20 am

Puncturesafe does much the same, available in the UK by Mail-Order.
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 8:39 am

I was chatting on the phone recently to the very helpful Puncturesafe Northern Sales Director about getting the tyres on my Smart and Mrs M's Kia treated with Puncturesafe. I know all users will be familiar with the DIY plastic bottle method, but there's also Punctureseal Installation Centres in your area (usually car caravan or motorcycle dealers) that can install it into your tyres quickly using professional equipment without fully deflating them. The few psi pressure you lose is corrected after the tyre is treated.



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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 11:18 am

IIRC Puncture Seal and Puncture Safe are two different animals. One is the US version and the other is a Euro compliant version made in UK . Not sure which is which or the relative efficacy of the two formulations.
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 11:56 am

I've also used Ultraseal which may now be called Puncturesafe, I don't really care what it's called as long as it does the job.
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 12:48 pm

I tried this stuff in my tyre once and didn't like it. I carry a tubless tyre puncture repair kit. I have seen the "Puncture seal" van that Meldrew refers to, it parks up at Rivington Barn bike meet every Sunday (it's a local bike meet). The people i get my tyres from always balance my tyres and fit new valves when fitting new tyres. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 1:11 pm

The last time I had a puncture it was in the rear wheel of my Helix on the A66 near Keswick, I thought no worries I've a BMW tubeless repair kit with me and it was a complete and utter waste of time. I carry a Stop n' Go tyre plugger kit with me nowadays which should be better, but at least with sealant in the tyres you've got less chance of being stranded by the roadside
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2013 5:31 pm

Old Limey wrote:
I tried this stuff in my tyre once and didn't like it. I carry a tubless tyre puncture repair kit. I have seen the "Puncture seal" van that Meldrew refers to, it parks up at Rivington Barn bike meet every Sunday (it's a local bike meet). The people i get my tyres from always balance my tyres and fit new valves when fitting new tyres. Smile

What didn't you like about it?

I have had it in scoot and m'bike tyres and never had a problem... or a Puncture Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeThu May 16, 2013 2:04 pm

Well, every time i tried to check tyre pressure i got this stuff coming out of the valve, and i got fed up with it. I think i have repaired two punctures in the last five years.I go through a set of tyres every 12mths, so if i put this stuff in every time i fit new tyres i could be throwing away a lot of money. I like to think iam careful how i spend my money. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeThu May 16, 2013 2:31 pm

Old Limey wrote:
Well, every time i tried to check tyre pressure i got this stuff coming out of the valve, and i got fed up with it. I think i have repaired two punctures in the last five years.I go through a set of tyres every 12mths, so if i put this stuff in every time i fit new tyres i could be throwing away a lot of money. I like to think iam careful how i spend my money. Smile

Fairynuff! My take is that 15 quid is a bit of insurance, , if the rear lasts say, 7K miles, then thats only £2.20/thousand miles extra Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeThu May 16, 2013 3:08 pm

I've had 'this stuff' in three different scooters plus replacement tyres and I've never had it coming out of the tyre valves. It does of course tell you in the Instructions to clean the valve stem of sealant before replacing the valve after installing the sealant into the tyre...which I'm sure was done. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeThu May 16, 2013 3:19 pm

I think you should also partly "inflate" the tyre without the valve to blow any residue remaining in the valve stem into the tyre.

You then insert the valve and inflate to full pressure.

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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeThu May 16, 2013 4:03 pm

So an American started this topic and apart from jg only the Brits seem interested. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeThu May 16, 2013 4:15 pm

I think many of the US types don't/haven't ridden enough to worry.

Never have real"Ride-On " come out valve-----my desire is not to walk when I do not have to.

BMW tire repair kit JUNK!! CO2 cartridges, rather useless. I carry small hand pump.

Think which brand and for what purpose the stuff is for is important----for me balance is VERY IMPORTANT.

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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeThu May 16, 2013 6:49 pm

Meldrew wrote:
So an American started this topic and apart from jg only the Brits seem interested. Smile
Maybe the Americans are too busy riding. Smile
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I use Slime instead, since it is more readily available.

Chris
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeFri May 17, 2013 2:57 pm

I absolutely love this stuff. I buy it at my local Cycle Gear store for $15 per bottle (I buy 2 bottles and use about 9/10ths in front wheel and 11/10ths in the rear wheel). I know it sounds like a lot to spend but man, does it smooth out the bike on the highway! I get absolutely 0 handlebar vibration at 80mph (indicated). I have to say it is definitely worth it to improve the ride over the life of the tires and that little added insurance against punctures and blowouts. Also, the sealant doesn't go all over the place when dismounting the tire from the wheel- it sticks pretty well to the inside of the tire and doesn't get all messy if you do your own tire swaps.

Jesse in Atlanta
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeFri May 17, 2013 3:09 pm

Ride on does not prevent blowouts! Might seal small leaks in the thread area----to me, who does own tire work, value is as balance medium.
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I just mean that if there is a puncture in the tire tread it will seal it, which would prevent quick loss of air that might lead to a blowout.

Jesse
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PostSubject: Re: RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE    RIDE-ON TIRE SEALANT- BALANCING SYSTEM FOR MOTORCYCLE  I_icon_minitimeSat May 18, 2013 1:09 pm

If you're in the US, I'd recommend the Harbor Freight motorcycle balance stand (not a bubble balancer). With weights, if you watch for a sale at HF, you'll probably be able to pick it up for less than $40. Saves a lot of money for people doing their own tire work. It only takes me 5-10 minutes per tire, plus I can find the light spot on the rim before I put the tire on it (heavy spot of tire should go on light spot of the rim for the least extra weight on the wheel).

If you're using it for it's sealant properties, then obviously the HF stand won't help you much. But if you're just doing it for balancing, and you ride a bunch, the HF stand wills ave you some money.
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Point: use Ride On as balancing medium, no balance stand is needed----I have one at least 30 years old from Hein Gerike.

Ride a lot---Ride On lasts for the life of the tire and changes as needed.

Well balanced wheels and tires---regardless of how you achieve it makes riding more enjoyable....and maybe tires last longer
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