New Tire Choice - Michelin Pilot Power Pure SC

I'm planning ahead for late summer when I need new tires for my bike. I usually buy my tires a couple months early, just to make sure they are available when I need them. Michelin has a new tire out that looks interesting. It is the Pilot Power Pure SC. (I'm sure someone got paid a lot of money to come up with that mouthful. )

Here's what they say about it on Motorcycle Superstore's website.

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Michelin Pilot Power Pure SC Rear Tire

• World’s first dual compound technology scooter tire (2CT)
  
• Increased safety, grip, sportiness and longevity
  
• Delivers feedback and grip in all driving conditions
  
• Slick central portion puts more rubber on the ground to increase longevity
  
• Shoulders are made with softer rubber to enhance grip and safety
  
• Holds the road in wet, damp or slippery surfaces
  
• Fountain tread design found in Michelin’s racing tires

It appears like it'll do everything but help you lose 20 lbs and regain all your hair!

Bike Bandit has the picture below.


The price is excellent. Motorcycle Superstore has it for $52.99. Bike Bandit was even cheaper at $48.82! I'm surprised the tire is so inexpensive. From Motorcycle Superstore, the Pirelli Diablo is $57.99 and the Metzler Feelfree is $69.99 as a comparison.

I'm curious as to how this tire will work in rain. Almost any tire will work well on dry pavement, but when the water hits the road, it is a different story. And all the tire manufacturers make wonderful claims...

Chris

I had rear installed 1000 miles ago. Previously had hoops. Rear had half tread life left but had a slow leak, so had it changed. I love the ride with the new tire. On grooved surfaces bike would wander with the grooves and with new tire the control is much improved. I still have the hoop on the front.

On the previous front(Bridgestone Hoop) i got nearly 11,ooomls, before it was down to our legal limit in UK of 1mm. Even then it was holding as it should in the wet.The rear hoop was down to 1mm at 6,300mls. I now have a Metzeler Feelfree on the rear that has done 8,000ml and has 3mm tread left on it. I put another Hoop on the front and that has done 9,000ml again with 3mm of tread still on it. I think, in my case, i have the right combination of tyres, I think i will try a Metzeler on the front next time just to see what wear i can get from it.

I was wondering if anyone has put a Michelin City Grip (120/70-14) on the front of their Swing since I can't find a 120/80-14 City Grip. I now have a new City Grip on back and after 200 miles they look good and feel good . I like the nice deep treads on this tire. Thanks

City Grips are not made in matched pair for SilverWing. 70 aspect ratio might work on SilverWing front....but why screw up a well handling scooter?

Michelin Power Pure SC have been around for awhile. I used them on both Silverwings as well as Burgman 400's.

Feature for me=they wear round so handling stays same for life of tire, most mileage I got from them, 11,000 miles on Burgman 400.

My experience with 2 new SilverWing and over 90,000miles is the SilverWing is tire sensitive.

Thanks John, you're reasoning seems to make sense. I guess I'll try another tire with same profile (120/80-14)

hi aldusfran,i have just put perrili corsa on my wing and looks good and rides well 2000km now all is well

Maybe Im looking at it wrong but they want $84.71 for the ft and $58.39 for the rear? $143.10 a set... Why is the ft tire so much more than the rear?

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Pirelli also makes a dual compound rear. Diablo Rosso III.  I just installed this as a rear and an older Diablo on the front.  Much improved tracking and doesn't follow every groove in the road. BUT new tires always improve the handling.  

Previous tires were Mich. Power Pure not a fan of those.  Followed road groves and pulled on uneven surfaces.  Rear only lasted 5k front 8k  and liked to head shake if hands off bars for 2 seconds.

Worth a look Pirelli.  Only have 400 miles on them so far.

I currently have the Mitchelin Power Pure on both wheels and am waiting to change them out as I am having the same troubles as Mech 1 above. Bike wanders with the road grooves and front has head shake if you lift a hand. I put them on as they are OK in the wet and last longer than Pirelli's. However it will be Pirelli for me in front for me, in future!

Have a metzler feelfree on the rear which i guess makes little difference to the pirelli diablo riding wise......certainly not going to stress the tire out as the bike touches down to early on the twisties. Got about 8K from the diablo and hope to get the same at least from the metz....only one rear slide in the winter and it was a cold icy day with offcamber road surface so to be expected really , other then that could not fault it.

The front i have a Avon summit is on the other hand a dangerous tire in the wet imo, this has lasted about 14 K and is due a change now so will probbaly get another Metz. Price wise the rear appears to be the same price as the front but i guess its a bigger hoop but narrower width so balances out price per gram.

Was this not a 2012 post?

you are very wise Paster Ron.... I never even notaced....

Silverwing tire discussions have been going on here since 2003 on the original Yahoo Silverwing forum. That'd be concurrent with tire wear on the first generation of FSC models in the US. And probably before that on forums in Asia, Europe and the UK where the FJS and JDM models were first released. Odds are pretty good that those discussions and opinions will continue long after we've taken our last ride as well.

Tim

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:

Silverwing tire discussions have been going on here since 2003 on the original Yahoo Silverwing forum. That'd be concurrent with tire wear on the first generation of FSC models in the US. And probably before that on forums in Asia, Europe and the UK where the FJS and JDM models were first released. Odds are pretty good that those discussions and opinions will continue long after we've taken our last ride as well.

Tim

With that being said: I use the Power Pure on my front tire and get an average of 8,000 miles.

less than 4,000 on the pure power rear for me.

Hey Daboo, it's amazing the people from the f 800 gt site one runs into on other sites! Ran into Ian on a cx/gl Honda website! He helped me get re-logged into the f 800 site. Never knew you where a scooter rider. I am gtPaul in Iowa. I had a 2013 c600 sport bmw scooter, love the Silverwing much, much more.Paul

I'll keep the thread alive for a while, just came home with a new set of Michelin Power Pure SC, I'll compare them to the Dunlop Scootlines that just came off, at 6,500 the rear left a 2" x 2" center section somewhere I figured they had about another 800 to a 1000 miles left on them, the front even more.

I had very good luck with Michelin Power Pure SC on both SilverWing and Burgman 400. They wear round---over 10,000 miles rear Burgman 400.

john grinsel wrote:

I had very good luck with Michelin Power Pure SC on both SilverWing and Burgman 400.  They wear round---over 10,000 miles rear Burgman 400.

I absolutely have to jump on this as I AGREE with Mr. Grinsel on both the SWing and Burgman 400. The Power Pure SC, which is designed after Michelin's great Pilot line of MC tires are very, very good in my opinion.

FWIW -- I've never had luck with any Dunlop tires on a MC ... always found them to be very slippery ... and downright dangerous in the rain.

^ Geez, that's great. I just put on a set of Dunlops, to replace the original tires on my new to me 2012 S'wing w/5K miles. I guess I'll be replacing them sooner than I planned.

The Dunlops I had on did well, only got caught out in the rain once with them so I applied the RYOR thinking, slow down especially at the start of a rain, oil on the surface with water, hmm.

minimac wrote:

^ Geez, that's great. I just put on a set of Dunlops, to replace the original tires on my new to me 2012 S'wing w/5K miles. I guess I'll be replacing them sooner than I planned.

Not necessarily. It was about 10-12 years ago when I had the Dunlops removed and I suspect the design and compounds have changed quite a bit since then. Plus, road composition, riding style and weather all enter into the equation. You'll be able to judge for yourself soon enough.

I put the Michelin on both of the SW's I have owned. Love the tires, great wet weather traction and stopping. On my BMW's Ive had (Dunlops) not a big fan, went to Diablos an they were better. After riding for 54 years Michelin's by far are the overall winner, a little more $$$ but no sliding thru a stop light either.

I put new Michelin Power Pure SC on my 2004 Swing and instantly regretted it. The rear was ok, but the front tire would follow tar snakes, and groves in the road. Sold the bike with the Michelin tires. My new 2013 Swing came with IRC tires for which I like a lot. Rear had about 16k miles when changed, but the front is still going with 18k miles. Need to replace the front soon only because of age. Some one on this forum mentioned that Honda dealer cost less than online bike stores, and he was correct.

Easyrider wrote:

... snipped ... I put new Michelin Power Pure SC on my 2004 Swing and instantly regretted it ... the front tire would follow tar snakes, and groves in the road

I recall you posting this comment before. I've paid special attention when traversing tar snakes and grooved road surfaces but have not felt the Michelin Pilot tires follow these channels any more than other tires I've had. Maybe our snakes are baby sized compared to yours in HI ... lol

My original IRC were great for the roads here. I get 16K+ miles so I am very happy. Maybe it's the Hawaiian weather that is good on my tires.

BTW - HAPPY FATHER'S DAY to all you fathers!!!

Aloha!!!  I'm sitting in the lobby of the Spokane airport heading back to Oahu!!!!

Hi,

No body have talked about "Contiscoot" ............

I have a set on my SW and love them . It is the best one so far for me.... They look like they will last long , having over 7000 kilometers on them and alot of tread left...

Michel

While the mileage out of a tire matters. Safety is everything on a two wheeled bike. Stopping power and wet weather handling are what's important.

Properly developed tire can/should have stopping power/wet performance....and reasonable tread life. You have to ride a lot to get to know your tires.

Oh, I don't know about that, within a few miles of riding out of the dealers showroom on my new Forza I was impressed with grip from the Pirelli Scorpion tyres on it. Usually new tyres are a bit skittish until you've clocked up a load of miles to scuff off the releasing agent from the manufacturing process, But these Pirelli’s were good from the get go and are up to the job in all weather conditions. Even when riding in torrential rain when I kept forgetting I now have the option of Traction Control.