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PostSubject: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2020 5:06 pm

Hi All,

I feel it's a bit rude to post here only when I need something.  However, my life has been crazy busy, leaving little time for social interaction via the net.  So, I'm here with a humble spirit asking for some help.  

Have the 2013 Swing in action now.  Much better condition than the '08.  Smooth ride too.

Anyway.  I bought Denali DRL light pods and am ready to mount them.  I have a Swing manual but the wiring diagram isn't much help.  Can't read it so "blew it up" and found that the lettering is a bit broken = still can't read it.

I'm using the included Posi-Taps for connection.  Doesn't need a relay (according to Denali). -- Three wires to connect.  
Black to Ground
Orange to Hi Beam
Red to Low Beam

Much obliged to any who might help.

Thanks so much,  Judy

p.s.  I did search the forum but couldn't find what I wanted.  Hook me up with a link if info is on here.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2020 6:19 pm

Gr (gray) = ground, Bu (blue) = high beam, W (white) = low beam.

Probably best to access that headlight wire harness via removing the windshield garnish and grabbing that harness from the top.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2020 6:31 pm

Thank you Very Much!!!!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2020 6:59 pm

Pictures when you’re done Judy. Please Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 04, 2020 7:51 pm

Tim's colours are correct on the bulb side of the multiplug to the headlights. However on the harness side of that plug, the ground is Green, not Grey.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cj0wn23ik9m31ae/Silverwing%20wiring%20diagram.jpg?dl=0
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2020 11:08 am

Thank you gentlemen and I will certainly post when finished.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2020 11:47 am

just took a look at link to diagram that is very readable. Thanks.

I see that you are both correct. Gray on light side of harness and Green on opposite side of harness.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2020 1:30 pm

I'm back again......

I have it apart and harness unplugged. The wiring is same on both sides with 6 wires.

Terry, your diagram shows 7 wires with 2 green on the "far side." The Light side shows a green to green and a gray to green.

Posting to clarify, for others, that the 2013 abs Swing ground is the gray wire.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2020 4:55 pm

Sorry about that, you are perfectly correct. To atone for my sins, please find a link to the correct wiring diagram from the service manual.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yy5eegy7eor6yle/Silverwing%20Wiring%20ABS%20after%2007.pdf?dl=0
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 7:11 pm

Thank you Terry, You are redeemed Smile  -  Love your schematics.  I can read them clearly!

I did get the lights wired up and working but me thinks a relay may be necessary.  Rode over to the neighbor to show her my upgrade.  Pleased as punch too.  However, the Swing didn't want to start to go home.  Kind of a chug, then a snap type sounding click and nothing.   No  No  No  

There was still juice as all that's suppose to light up did, including the Denali DLRs both low and high beam.  Checked all the fuses and they were intact.  Put trickle charger on just for the heck of it and left the Swing at the neighbor's.

Will unplug pigtails for initial start up tomorrow late, busy as usual.  Start fine then, check positap connections and plug 'em in for another try.

Here's copy and pasted info from Denali

"Purpose built to create the most amount of light from the smallest, slimmest housing possible, the DENALI DRLs integrate perfectly with the front end and are unbelievably bright. Complete with an integrated dual intensity circuit, the lights can be wired to run at full intensity, half intensity or automatically switch between the two with the motorcycle's original high beam switch. A waterproof connector and posi-tap pigtail utilize power from your vehicles running light circut, making installation a breeze and operation effortless; the DRLs will simply come on and turn off with your vehicle's ignition.

Like emergency strobe lights, the DENALI DRL optics are designed to concentrate the light at the source as opposed to project it down the road. While ideal for daytime and nighttime conspicuity, these lights will also provide a noticeable spread of light immediately in front of your motorcycle at night. Available in white and amber.

Using the included wiring adapter, the DRLs can be directly plug-and-play connected to a CANsmart Accessory Controller or to any DENALI 2.0-series wiring harness. When connected to a DENALI 2.0 harness, the DRLs will run only in high-intensity mode. But when connected through the CANsmart, the DRLs can be fully dimmed."

Features:

   Dual Circuit: 50% & 100% intensity
   180° viewing angle
   6 Extremely bright LEDs per light pod
   Very efficient 12-watt total power consumption
[1 amp draw]

   Size: 4.8in H x 1.1in W x 0.6in D
   Low profile design"

Any help would be appreciated as to diagnosis.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 8:51 pm

Check the battery terminal connections. That snap could have been an arc due to a loose connection at the terminals. Put a volt meter on the batt terminals before you attempt starting. You want to see a minimum of 12.5 V. After it starts you want to see a minimum of 13.5 V while it is at a fast idle. If the voltage drops to 11 V when the starter motor is cranking you’ve got a weak battery.

Terry’s opinion may vary.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 9:04 pm

If the DRLs are only drawing 12W then these are unlikely to be a source of any issue; for reference the normal halogen headlights are 55W.

If the lights etc work then the battery and the main fuse must be OK. The lack of a start would be due to something like a dirty starter button, crud in the kill switch or the left brake interlock switch.
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PostSubject: Re: Wiring Code Help, Please   Wiring Code Help, Please I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2020 7:53 pm

The verdict is in.  The battery needs to be replaced.  I'll read the threads and then purchase a new one.

Thank you so much for all of your help.

Yes, I'll post pics as promised.  

thanks again ~ Judy  thumbs up cheers
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