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PostSubject: Givi--Noticied   Givi--Noticied I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2016 2:15 pm

Looking at GIVI offerings the other day----saw they have saddlebag set up for Burgman 650---top opening E22 bag I think. Looks nice and with top opening bags, practical----in my world side opening bags spill my junk on the ground each time they are opened

Bags will never happen from GIVI for SilverWing, now that production is probably stopped. There are German racks for bags maybe still available.

Always thinking towards next new bike----and what? Not much out there works for me/interests me.....having had over 75 new bikes/scooters since 1955----Yamaha SR400 would work for me, but the extra $1500 for Hepco & Becker mounts/bags and top box to make it everyday useable & National Cycle Windshield.
Had new SR500 '78 or'79 and they work.---Vespa out of question as no dealer network. TMAX?? Already had new one.
Honda Forza, would work, lots of leftovers sitting in dealer show rooms.----Burgman 400 works for me---had 2 new ones, but they are getting expensive. Age has made me dislike heavy bikes/scooters more and more----BUT Burgman 650, heavy, does offer me---heated grips, heated seat, electric shield. and all coming OEM and not having to make mods on bike. And easier rear wheel removal and no rubber band belt changes required----bought new I have no fear of Burgman 650 belt/transmission troubles for the 50,000 miles I would use the bike

So present my '13 leftover SilverWing---going to ride it out to 50,000 miles---expense, I hope, one more drive belt(rollers/sliders, too) 2 more rear tires-----going to see if original air cleaner works the 50,000 miles and spark plugs, too--only change them if gas mileage drops or hard starting----at near 30,000 miles mileage still good/starts fine.

Bottom Line: I would like turn key bike----not spending time and money modifying a the mods bring nothing on used/trade in value
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PostSubject: Re: Givi--Noticied   Givi--Noticied I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2016 6:33 pm

When will you hit 50,000 miles?
I fully expect that Honda will re-enter the scooter market in a year or two with something to compete with the BMW and Burgman. They are innovating with several bikes and I really expect a sport maxi-scooter and a touring scooter from them, possibly based on their automatic transmission and 670 engine. Total speculation but they also discontinued the Goldwing in 2011 and other model names had breaks.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi--Noticied   Givi--Noticied I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 15, 2016 8:01 pm

Should hit 50,000 this fall. Do not even want to think about dual clutch transmission/open chain/no centerstand.....as Honda seems to be moving towards. Time will tell---as I use bike everyday for all transport needs, just happen to like clean, enclosed drive lines...and centertands, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi--Noticied   Givi--Noticied I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 16, 2016 12:03 am

I know it's not light and it's only a bit less than the Burgman 650 but the C650GT is a pretty fine bike. I've had mine long enough now to know it's definitely a keeper. Doesn't feel any heavier than the SW but has the power and ground clearance of a motorcycle. All the comfort conveniences as well, heated seat, heated grips, electronic windshield, lots of storage with the BMW top box, 15" wheels that make the roads smoother than most scooters, ABS, tire pressure monitoring, average and instantaneous mpg readout just a fine machine. And the 2016's are even better with some pretty nice tweaks to the gear ratios, exhaust sound and a few other nice little changes.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi--Noticied   Givi--Noticied I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 16, 2016 8:30 am

BMW----as BMW owner since 1958, still own one sitting in ex-girlfriend's basement. Not going back to check. Lack of dealers in US turn off for me, but I have ridden new BMW scooter, liked wind management, deal offered by dealer on trade=so bad=joke. Also think their maint./shop rates can be sky high. My new BMW car, 2007 3 series coupe came with free maint. for 50,000 miles in US......and had no jack/spare tire. Car was used in Europe and Korea, too...both expensive places for BMW ownership. When car came to US and hit 50,000---dumped it for new Honda car (wife).
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PostSubject: Re: Givi--Noticied   Givi--Noticied I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 16, 2016 5:15 pm

One consideration is that BMW gives a three year warranty instead of one year. I'm lucky here in the BMW dealer, they're friendly and have a good shop that many come from far away to obtain their service. I find their shop charges lower than our local Honda/Kawasaki dealer. Not to mention the quality of service at the Honda shop is excrable. They left my four year old GL1800 out back of their shop for two weeks in the rain and blowing dirt a few years ago when it was there for a minor service. I couldn't even tell the color of my bike due to the dirt on it. Some way to take care of a client's 18,000 bike. At our BMW shop my scooter always comes back spotless.

On some road trips with my brother who rides a BMW it seemed he was usually treated much better at BMW shops than the Honda dealers treated me. One thing for sure BMW will work on old Beemers but Honda won't touch Goldwings over ten years old. Pretty ridiculous when they'll work on one bike but an identical bike that's a year older they'll refuse. I don't know if all Honda dealers do this on all bikes but I've run into that policy at least three times with my Goldwing.
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