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PostSubject: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 04, 2014 4:39 pm

This topic comes up often enough that I thought it(the topic) should have a name that a search would find. I hope this helps someone.  Smile 
How to program
Where to get the chip
Where to get blank keys.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 04, 2014 6:06 pm

 applause   applause  Thanks Roger.  applause   applause 
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 04, 2014 7:42 pm

No problem you're welcome.  I often think about doing this with a lot of posts, so this time I broke down and did it. I see posts all the time that should have the title changed and moved to the  Maintenance, Tips and Hints section so a search could find them.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2014 2:51 pm

Since when does SilverWing have programable key? I have latest you can buy in US-2013----with plain key...that can be easy and cheap to replace----fancy key I would not have purchased bike.


My book stuff gets too fancy/complicated, I will save my money.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2014 5:07 pm

john grinsel wrote:
Since when does SilverWing have programable key?  

You should read more on this forum. There are many members in Europe and Asia. All their bikes come with HISS.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2014 6:18 pm

Does anyone know the reason why Honda did not include the HISS on US bound bikes?
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2014 6:20 pm

John I posted this so we would not have to read posts from people needing to program new HISS keys. The subject comes up to often, this way all the information they need is right here and could be found with a search.  Cool

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Perhaps it helps Honda keep the price down where government doesn't require it.  Neutral


Last edited by model28a on Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:31 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : To give Wayne.my guess why it's not included on the HISS on US bound bikes)
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2014 6:37 pm

These keys are waste of money in my opinion---Recently lived in Europe, my new Fiat came with one of these keys=pain in butt. I know anti steal...but who would Steal Fiat??


Bought new Honda Beat in Japan a few years ago and I think it still had regular key=great!!
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 05, 2014 9:44 pm

john grinsel wrote:
These keys are waste of money in my opinion

Good to know.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 5:29 am

john grinsel wrote:
These keys are waste of money in my opinion---Recently lived in Europe, my new Fiat came with one of these keys=pain in butt.  I know anti steal...but who would Steal Fiat?

How do you mean 'Recently lived in Europe'? You've been living in Tennessee since I joined the forum in late 2010 and were probably there when you joined the forum in August 2009. So a minimum of 4 or 5 years ago is hardly recent.   Smile 

The latest Fiat models like the 500 and the new style Panda are excellent cars, the Panda 4x4 can out perform far bigger rivals on winter roads. The build quality and reliability has improved vastly in the last ten years or so and Fiat regularly win European motoring awards. So I'd say Fiat are desirable cars to drive, and to steal.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 6:18 am

I think I left Europe 2009---went to Korea next. Recent in my mind. My Fiat made in Poland, used 2 years, ok but again who would steal a Fiat----what we have in US now are made in Mexico and over priced. Been in TN 3 years and do not like it---expensive/hot/horrible food/people drive like idiots.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 6:36 am

Admin hat on.

John. Once again you have expressed a rather blunt and, in this case, an ill informed view. As a result you have rubbed people the wrong way.

Just because your opinion is at variance with others does NOT, by default, mean that you are right and they wrong! The original post was designed to assist readers. Your posts do not advance the cause. You have been warned privately about this. Now take this as a public warning.

BE NICE!
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 7:30 am

Colin B wrote:
Admin hat on.

John. Once again you have expressed a rather blunt and, in this case, an ill informed view. As a result you have rubbed people the wrong way.

Just because your opinion is at variance with others does NOT, by default, mean that you are right and they wrong! The original post was designed to assist readers. Your posts do not advance the cause. You have been warned privately about this. Now take this as a public warning.

BE NICE!
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 7:35 am

If I dropped John in it with my earlier post, it was not my intention for him to get a bollocking and send my apologies.  Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 8:05 am

Meldrew wrote:
If I dropped John in it with my earlier post, it was not my intention for him to get a bollocking and send my apologies.  Smile
Meldrew, It wasn't you.  The topic of the thread is:

HISS
How to program
Where to get the chip
Where to get blank keys.


This system is not an optional system. It either comes on your country's bikes or it doesn't.
If it does, the information presented is valuable.
By definition the keys are not a waste of money if you need to replace them to use the bike.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, He did nothing to further the topic or even stay on topic.
He diverted the topic to the value of the system, and then gave his authoritative proclamation
on a system it appears from his post he didn't even know existed until this topic.

Opinions are only useful when their are choices to be made, or you are trolling for controversy.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 8:14 am

Gee--I got admin on my butt----but I actually lived where these keys are the norm and and stand by my claim of waste of money. When lease on Genius my wife drives runs out in 10 months---need another car-----want crank down windows/blade key/spare tire---all things that are going by wayside in US market. Why add extra complications? and expense? Guess riders are getting to be not welcome.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 8:59 am

john grinsel wrote:
Gee--I got admin on my butt----but I actually lived where these keys are the norm and and stand by my claim of waste of money.  When lease on Genius my wife drives runs out in 10 months---need another car-----want crank down windows/blade key/spare tire---all things that are going by wayside in US market.  Why add extra complications?  and expense?   Guess riders are getting to be not welcome.

You just don't get it, John.

Nobody asked for your opinion on the usefulness of the HISS system. You went way off topic.

If you want to stay in the mod's good books, you'd start a thread with the title "Your opinion of the usefulness of HISS or transponder keys".

I and likely every forum member has an opinion about transponder keys as well. But nobody asked or cares about that in this thread.

The mods are asking you to stay on topic, not ramble on with controversial statements.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 3:18 pm

With Admin hat off, let me explain where I'm coming from with an example (it will mean going off topic a little).

I have a question about maintenance/servicing. But to ask it will show my ignorance of things mechanical and that I haven't ridden the Silverwing much in the past 12 months.

My dilemma .... Do I post the question and invite replies which may be of use to others, or do I refrain, suspecting that I and my post will be ridiculed, or that I will be accused of "not being a real rider"?

My solution will probably be to ask my question in a couple of PMs to those who happily give advice; a course which will deny others information that they may find useful.

Are we here to help, or alienate?



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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 3:26 pm

John,I think HISS keys are a great idea,living in the UK as I do,if there is a vehicle security system in place it makes a large difference in insurance premium over a vehicle without one.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 3:43 pm

When I collected my S'Wing the previous owner told me to keep the spare key at least 2" away from the ignition switch if the engine was running as it would cancel out the main key & turn the engine off.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 4:25 pm

Only two keys are allowed to function with the HISS.  I thought I was being very clever when I had third key programmed by the dealer but I changed my mind when one of the originals dropped out !
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 5:38 pm

UK supplier of blank key with transponder .... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Bike-Key-Transponder-ID46-Hiss-CB-CBR-VFR-Most-Models-/171348371850?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item27e528a98a
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 06, 2014 6:19 pm

bigbird wrote:
john grinsel wrote:
Gee--I got admin on my butt----but I actually lived where these keys are the norm and and stand by my claim of waste of money.  When lease on Genius my wife drives runs out in 10 months---need another car-----want crank down windows/blade key/spare tire---all things that are going by wayside in US market.  Why add extra complications?  and expense?   Guess riders are getting to be not welcome.

You just don't get it, John.

Nobody asked for your opinion on the usefulness of the HISS system. You went way off topic.

If you want to stay in the mod's good books, you'd start a thread with the title "Your opinion of the usefulness of HISS or transponder keys".

I and likely every forum member has an opinion about transponder keys as well. But nobody asked or cares about that in this thread.

The mods are asking you to stay on topic, not ramble on with controversial statements.

BB,
I hear what you are saying, but threads are always getting HI-Jacked. Although not intentional. The topic probably excites John about his feelings about the HISS and other features. I wished that Honda had included it in US bound bikes. John's comments were taken, by me as his personal comments. I disagree with him, but we are all entitled to our own opinion. We here on this forum like to share. No harm, no hurt. As long as we do not give bad advise on safety issues. I feel that everyone is a little guilty of hijacking a topic. My comments here falls in that category. John adds excitement here!! LOL... You all ride safe.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 07, 2014 3:29 am

Admin response:

My comments above refer, not to the (inevitable) hijacking of a thread, but to presenting (in this case) ill informed opinion as fact.

As a result, it caused friction and undermined the intention of the original poster, ie to be of help to others.

Apart from thanks and another link, nothing that followed added value to the original post. Quite the opposite and not for the first time.

I'm all for robust discussion, and informed instruction/opinion, but arrogance has no place.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 07, 2014 11:31 am

Colin B wrote:
With Admin hat off, let me explain where I'm coming from with an example (it will mean going off topic a little).

I have a question about maintenance/servicing. But to ask it will show my ignorance of things mechanical and that I haven't ridden the Silverwing much in the past 12 months.

My dilemma .... Do I post the question and invite replies which may be of use to others, or do I refrain, suspecting that I and my post will be ridiculed, or that I will be accused of "not being a real rider"?

My solution will probably be to ask my question in a couple of PMs to those who happily give advice; a course which will deny others information that they may find useful.

Are we here to help, or alienate?



Thanks Colin you couldn't of been more precise. I have felt that way for some time.
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 07, 2014 7:47 pm

I thought we were here to ride and relate experiences from that riding---I and probably many others could care less about form and format. But as daily rider, and long time rider my experiences may be different----and it seems to be ok to try to pick on me
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john grinsel wrote:
I thought we were here to ride and relate experiences from that riding---I and probably many others could care less about form and format.


Without form and format this forum would self destruct.
But do you care, John?
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PostSubject: Re: Programming new HISS keys on Honda   Programming new HISS keys on Honda I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 12, 2014 2:25 pm

I have just returned from a week long trip to a place with no internet or 3G phone (bliss). I return to find the same scab being picked.

John, nobody is picking on you, but you continue to set yourself apart; for the wrong reasons! Despite many requests not to, you continue present you thoughts as FACT in a frequently incoherent and badly presented form. You also persist in reminding us that you have ridden more miles than the rest of us put together, as though distance, by default, makes you a better rider.

It doesn't!


This thread will be locked and subsequently trimmed to the RELEVANT, HELPFUL posts.

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