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PostSubject: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 25, 2013 11:52 pm

I just bought a 2003 silverwing fsc600. Clean title, garage kept with 31000 miles. I got it for $650. It doesnt start since it needs a new engine. Im looking at ebay and saw a few. Engi e inly is $500 or can get the engine with tranny for about $1000. The previous owner told.me all I need is a new motor. Ive been try8ng to do some research on how hard it is to chnage the tranny, but it said I need some special tools. I have a compressor and mechanics tool set since I work on cars as a hobby but never work on scooters. Can any of you give me some suggestions. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 12:36 am

Congrats and best of luck to you with your bike. You should be able to find an engine by looking for SWings that have been in accidents. Keep us informed on how things go and I'm sure you will get good advice by others on the site.
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JeffR_ wrote:
Congrats and best of luck to you with your bike.  You should be able to find an engine by looking for SWings that have been in accidents.  Keep us informed on how things go and I'm sure you will get good advice by others on the site.
Thanks. Im just having a hard time finding an engine in northern california
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 4:26 am

Welcome to the forum. If you don't have one, get the shop manual.
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 11:07 am

welcome Silver Wing the only way to fly....
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 11:39 am

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welcome Silver Wing the only way to fly....
Hahha. Mine cant fly yet. Needs a new motor. Im picking it up from the city in a few days. At the hospital right now waiting for my baby daughter. Will the silverwing fit on the uhaul motorcycle trailer?
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 11:41 am

batiatus wrote:
JeffR_ wrote:
Congrats and best of luck to you with your bike.  You should be able to find an engine by looking for SWings that have been in accidents.  Keep us informed on how things go and I'm sure you will get good advice by others on the site.
Thanks. Im just having a hard time finding an engine in northern california
Well, the next time you see a SWing, loosen their bolts to their front tire. And when they get up to speed the wheel should come flying off, if you did it right. You should have your engine then. Evil or Very Mad :lol!: :lol!: 
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 1:15 pm

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I just bought a 2003 silverwing fsc600. Clean title, garage kept with 31000 miles. I got it for $650. It doesnt start since it needs a new engine. Im looking at ebay and saw a few. Engi e inly is $500 or can get the engine with tranny for about $1000. The previous owner told.me all I need is a new motor. Ive been try8ng to do some research on how hard it is to chnage the tranny, but it said I need some special tools. I have a compressor and mechanics tool set since I work on cars as a hobby but never work on scooters. Can any of you give me some suggestions.  Thanks
Batiatus - As stated in prior post - you need a Honda Service Manual - can get them online for about $35. If it was my scooter - I would try to find out why it does not start (e.g., low cylinder compression, bad ignition system, etc) and see if you can fix that. Ask PO why they think it is the engine - and what part of the engine is not functioning. You need to take a quick assessment of all parts of the scoot and what is going to need to be replaced (e.g., tires, wheels, brakes, belt, fork seals, etc.). How many miles on scoot? If you can't get the engine running without replacing it - then I suggest you sell (e.g., to another, part it out) it or save it for parts. There is a good chance you are dealing with a black hole as there could be lots wrong with your scoot that you can not easily assess since you can not run/ride it. If the engine does not run - you could be looking at the tip of the iceburg insofar as trouble with your SWing. In N. California a SWing that runs great for $2000 (I bought a 2003 couple of years ago - ran great - sold it one year later for $2000 - ran great) which (if you go replace engine and/or tranny route) is likely IMHO FAR LESS than repairing what you have (unless you can diagnose the reason the engine is not running and fix it with a minor repair of some sort). The path you are currently headed down could be, "Sewing a coat on a button". You are going to be wanting to hold your young child much more than holding a wrench - so you may wish to factor that in. I have never replaced an engine so can't advise you on that; however, I live near you and could advise you on assessing a 'running' scoot - if you decide to go that route (let me know via PM if you wish to reconsider your path and look at a $2000 SWing that runs). Whatever you decide - best wishes with your SWing!
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 2:29 pm

[/quote]Batiatus - As stated in prior post - you need a Honda Service Manual - can get them online for about $35.  If it was my scooter - I would try to find out why it does not start (e.g., low cylinder compression, bad ignition system, etc) and see if you can fix that.  Ask PO why they think it is the engine - and what part of the engine is not functioning.  You need to take a quick assessment of all parts of the scoot and what is going to need to be replaced (e.g., tires, wheels, brakes, belt, fork seals, etc.).  How many miles on scoot?  If you can't get the engine running without replacing it - then I suggest you sell (e.g., to another, part it out) it or save it for parts.  There is a good chance you are dealing with a black hole as there could be lots wrong with your scoot that you can not easily assess since you can not run/ride it.  If the engine does not run - you could be looking at the tip of the iceburg insofar as trouble with your SWing.  In N. California a SWing that runs great for $2000 (I bought a 2003 couple of years ago - ran great - sold it one year later for $2000 - ran great) which (if you go replace engine and/or tranny route) is likely IMHO FAR LESS than repairing what you have (unless you can diagnose the reason the engine is not running and fix it with a minor repair of some sort).  The path you are currently headed down could be, "Sewing a coat on a button".  You are going to be wanting to hold your young child much more than holding a wrench - so you may wish to factor that in.  I have never replaced an engine so can't advise you on that; however, I live near you and could advise you on assessing a 'running' scoot - if you decide to go that route (let me know via PM if you wish to reconsider your path and look at a $2000 SWing that runs).  Whatever you decide - best wishes with your SWing![/quote]
Thanks for the advise. I already paid for it yesterday. I asked him if I need a tranmission and all he said was a new motor. Will find out more and report back
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 26, 2013 3:06 pm

Batiatus - Do keep us informed on the SWing and the Baby also - best wishes with them both!
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Batiatus - Do keep us informed on the SWing and the Baby also - best wishes with them both!



So baiscally he said he was riding a few weeks ago and he tried accelerate and heard a tapping sound. A few minutes later the engined turned off and had to get it towed. Got it towed to a bike shop and mechanic found out there was an oil leak and the oil has ran out. Mechanic tried to out oil but engine would not turn. Other than that its in good condition.

Im thinking of buying just the engine for $625 shipped and replaed the belt at the same time.

A fried of mine gave me his 2009 Diamo Torino with 1300 miles. I changed all the oil, battery and fuses and got it running. Im thinking of selling that one and keep the silverwing

Baby is not out yet. Ive been up for 30 hours now
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 27, 2013 2:00 pm

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So baiscally he said he was riding a few weeks ago and he tried accelerate and heard a tapping sound. A few minutes later the engined turned off and had to get it towed. Got it towed to a bike shop and mechanic found out there was an oil leak and the oil has ran out. Mechanic tried to out oil but engine would not turn. Other than that its in good condition.

Baby is not out yet. Ive been up for 30 hours now
I know nothing about engines - but if it was my SWing - I may give a go at taking the engine apart (assuming I don't need a bazillion special tools) to see if it could be repaired. Who knows - maybe it would be something simple and not too costly (though I doubt it from your description). I would then know a lot more about the engine and how it works - but I am retired and not tired from waiting 30 hours for a baby to come out! Yikes - 30 hours - better get something pretty special for your wife after the birthing! Best wishes.
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 12:05 pm

Baby girl finally came out 9/27 @2:39 AM. Will be going home tomorrow. Tuesday ill pick up the s2ing and disassemble little by little just to see what's wrong with the engine
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 1:19 pm

[quote="batiatus"]Baby girl finally came out 9/27 @2:39 AM. Will be going home tomorrow./quote] cheers  cheers  CONGRATULATIONS !!! cheers  cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 1:49 pm

Found a motor at a local yard. They want $800. Its is 2008 and he thinks its has less than 5, 000 miles. The only problem is that its been sitting on the yard for 3 to 4 years
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 5:18 pm

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Found a motor at a local yard. They want $800. Its is 2008 and he thinks its has less than 5, 000 miles. The only problem is that its been sitting on the yard for 3 to 4 years
That sounds a bit high for something that's been sitting there "rusting". You will certainly need to see if the crankshaft is turning free. Otherwise the whole works might be seized and would require disassembling, etc to free up. You'd need to be able to turn the variator (17mm bolt) counterclockwise to rotate the crankshaft.

But assuming that the crank is free to turn, $800 might not be all that bad if you consider that you might easily pay $600 on eBay + shipping.

If you're lucky the variator, swing arm (belt case) and final drive gear case will still be attached to the engine.

Maybe you can haggle the price. It's not like people are lined up to buy that motor. He's had it there for several years without getting any money back on his investment.

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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 5:48 pm

First let me say congratulations on your new baby.party time  Now on the engine, will they give you any guarantee that it will run? Can you check to see if the engine will at least turn over by hand(take out the plug first) before you pay for it?

A post was made as I was typing but I'm not going to retype this so some info is redundant.
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 28, 2013 6:07 pm

Thanks everyone. Found another 2008 with 10k miles. $798 plus $175 s/h with 30 return policy and 6 month warranty
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 02, 2013 2:04 am

I got it home this afternoon. Tried to start it but the starter wont turn. The headlight will turn off everytime I start it. Also noticed the oil pressure is on. I checked the oil and it was empty. I added two quarts and abiut 10 mins pater there is a puddle of oil. Want to see if motor is free. Any suggestions?
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Return it under warranty maybe ? Deffo talk to the supplier before taking a spanner to it if I were you.
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 02, 2013 4:59 am

Check the side stand cut-off switch? Do you hear a double click when applying the brake? Don't know about the puddle of oil. Where is it coming from?
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Return it under warranty maybe ? Deffo talk to the supplier before taking a spanner to it if I were you.
I think he is referring to the Swing he just got with the broken engine.
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 02, 2013 9:27 pm

The Baby Girl is a KEEPER - the Wife is a Keeper - not sure what to say about the SWing - best wishes!
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 02, 2013 11:09 pm

Definitely need a new engine. I think the casing is crack. Ill buy a new motor. As for paint where do you guys go?
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 08, 2013 8:50 pm

new owner of 2003 silverwing <a href=new owner of 2003 silverwing 20131008_171701" />new owner of 2003 silverwing <a href=new owner of 2003 silverwing 20131008_171740" />new owner of 2003 silverwing <a href=new owner of 2003 silverwing 20131008_171732" />new owner of 2003 silverwing <a href=new owner of 2003 silverwing 20131008_171725" />I got the new engine for $700+ tax with 30 day warranty. Good thing it was garage. Now Im trying to take out the engine and im stuck on the allen and torx screw. also I cant take off the rear pulley. I have the torx and hex key but it just wont budge and worry might strip the bolt. Any suggestions?
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 Check  the side stand cut-off switch? Do you hear a double click when applying the brake?  Don't know about the puddle of oil. Where is it coming from?
Hi all I finally installed the new motor and its now running. I just need to I stall back the fairings. As for the left brake lever does it really beed to be press really hard or mine is faulty? I have to really press it really hard yo hear the two clicks
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batiatus wrote:
As for the left brake lever does it really beed to be press really hard or mine is faulty? I have to really press it really hard yo hear the two clicks
Yes it is normal to have to press it really hard to hear the two clicks.
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model28a wrote:
batiatus wrote:
As for the left brake lever does it really beed to be press really hard or mine is faulty? I have to really press it really hard yo hear the two clicks
Yes it is normal to have to press it really hard to hear the two clicks.
Thank you. I will just the fairings back and start test driving
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Here is a pic of my baby when she first came out and the pic of my work. Total investement with tools and mic $1700
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PostSubject: Re: new owner of 2003 silverwing   new owner of 2003 silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 23, 2013 1:23 pm

the 2008 engine will have an O2 sensor in the exhaust manifold- you will need to use the original manifold because the original engine didn't have one.

Congratulations!
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toolboxjesse wrote:
the 2008 engine will have an O2 sensor in the exhaust manifold- you will need to use the original manifold because the original engine didn't have one.

Congratulations!
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Thanks. I drove it for about 15 mins the other night. Will go riding this weekend. The Shop where I got the engine gave me a paperwork and told me to take it to DMV. Will DMV put the vin # on the title?
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Your "babies" are both beautiful. cheers  cheers 
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