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PostSubject: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 14, 2011 10:39 pm

Like the header says, im looking for an alarm system. did the search, and nothing. Ultimately im looking for one that i can "unpower" with a tinytoggle, somewhere in the underseat storage area, or in the locking side cubby for when i dont need it, (IE, garage) so as not to drain the battery.
Does anyone have one/use one?
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PostSubject: Re: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 2:34 am

Try here:
http://www.scorpioalarms.com/products/motorcycle

As far as the toggle switch, its all in how you wire it.
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PostSubject: Re: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 7:21 am

Do alarms really work? I bought a disk grenade to lock the rear disc. I lock the front forks and rear disc.

I am new to the motorcycle world and really need educating.

James
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PostSubject: Re: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 8:19 am

If someone wants your bike, they will get a friend, pick it up, toss it in a van, and go.
The only two things you can do, are make it difficult, and install something which allows GPS tracking of your bike.
Locks like the one you use, make it difficult in that they have to pick up the bike. An impulsive "thief of opportunity" will be foiled by this.
An alarm makes it difficult in that it is obvious what the thief's intent is.
But if you park it in a secluded place where no one is there to pay attention to it, then the alarm is pointless.
Trackers are good, not for stopping the theft, but for recovering the bike.

Now lets talk about battery draw. Scorpio (depending on the model) will draw
as little as 4ma/hr. By comparison the average car alarm draws around 50 for
itself, plus the draw of the led indicator. A single basic LED can draw 25-70ma/hr.
This is why the scorpio has no LED on its regular alarm, and why you should use
an alarm specifically intended for motorcycles.

However 4ma/hr...ma=milliamps or 1000ths of an amp=4 amps in 1000 hrs.
1000 hrs=41 days, 16 hrs.
However, we can logically assume the clock also draws current, (1-2ma?)
The stock battery, a ytz12 has 11.0 amps. The ytz14 has 11.2 amps.
Even a two amp drain could give you problems starting.

So a bike left unattended for 2-3 weeks could have a problem.
That's why I attached a solar panel to my bike. A single solar cell gives about
50ma/hr.

Dan


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PostSubject: Re: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 8:21 am

I have an alarmed lock which I usually put round a front-wheel spoke - one of these:

http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=19&pid=122&p=
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PostSubject: Re: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 10:25 am

I agree with Dan, if they want it they'll chuck it in a van and take it.
Make it as awkward for the thief as you can. I use an alarmed disclock, lock the steering, and set the immobiliser.
Can't do much more, and with those precautions, if it does get stolen, the insurers should pay out. (I'm an optimist, I know! Smile )
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PostSubject: Re: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 12:39 pm

Winger61 wrote:
Make it as awkward for the thief as you can.
I like that phrase Laughing

Years ago I had one of those talking alarms that you could record your own voice on.

So I had a girlfriend record phrases like,
"Don't touch me!"
"Get away from me you pervert!"
"Get any closer and I'll scream!"
"Help! Rape! He's forcing himself on me! Get this pedphile away from me!"

Needless to say my car never got broken into.

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PostSubject: Re: Recomendations for an alarm system?   Recomendations for an alarm system? I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 15, 2011 5:08 pm

I like that Dan.Reminds me of my old answering machine,had my girlfriend record: Rogers tied up right now. If you leave your name and number, I will have him call as soon as I untie him. Smile
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