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PostSubject: Specific 12v power points   Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:10 pm

Hi all..

I want to add a 12v 'cigarette lighter' socket to my silverwing...
I was wondering if anyone here had any recommendations for specific parts..?
When I google it I can only find adapters without inline fuses... (15amp preferred here...my peak draw will be over 10a..)

Any recommendations..?
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:12 pm

Pathfinder,

You should send an email to DennisB. He makes a connection that is easy to install and is modular. I think you can use it for a socket.

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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:22 am

I don't have a power outlet, but I entered power outlet in the search function at the top of the page and there were a number of threads on this. Maybe one of them will contain the information you need. Also, as JeffR said, I think DennisB has something that might help. Look under Dennis' shop. Oh, and welcome to the forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:40 am

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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:13 am

Wire direct to the battery with your own inline fuses.
Then install the Goldwing power receptacle that fits right into the plastic knockout in the left front cubby.
Here's some parts:

Buy some 12g a stranded red and black wire at Radio Shack. Splice in one of these fuse holders in each line:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102782

Then buy one of these:

http://wingstuff.com/pgroup_detail/440_power_plugs/3622_gl1800_accessory_fairing_power_plug_socket/?goto=%2Fpgroup_list%2Fgl1800%2F440_goldwing_power_plugs%2Fdes%2F


There you go.
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:23 pm

bigbird wrote:
Wire direct to the battery with your own inline fuses.
Then install the Goldwing power receptacle that fits right into the plastic knockout in the left front cubby.
Here's some parts:

Buy some 12g a stranded red and black wire at Radio Shack. Splice in one of these fuse holders in each line:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102782

Then buy one of these:

http://wingstuff.com/pgroup_detail/440_power_plugs/3622_gl1800_accessory_fairing_power_plug_socket/?goto=%2Fpgroup_list%2Fgl1800%2F440_goldwing_power_plugs%2Fdes%2F


There you go.


This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for... Thank you.

Thanks everyone
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:17 pm

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Welcome to the best Silverwing site on the web. You will find out this is the place to find most anything you will ever want to know about the Silverwing. Look through the old posts and you learn allot, from technical stuff to travel, funny and interesting stories. And as you found out get answers to things that you cannot find.
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:14 am

model28a wrote:
Pathfinder
Welcome to the best Silverwing site on the web. You will find out this is the place to find most anything you will ever want to know about the Silverwing. Look through the old posts and you learn allot, from technical stuff to travel, funny and interesting stories. And as you found out get answers to things that you cannot find.


Thank you... Before I joined... those old threads are where I found info that eventually lead to this one... ^^

I have one more question... this might be too specific, but..
I saw the thread that says the SW alternator puts out 440w at 5000rpm... Does anyone know the output for 3500-4000..?
( I'm just wondering what speed I need to sustain a 12.2a draw...^^; )
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:21 am

12.2A @ 14V only equals an additional 171W.
It sounds like your requirement is for heated clothing and/or grips. You should be fine at any rpm above idle. The alternator will compensate for increased load by strengthening its magnetic field. This will make the rotor harder to turn, resulting in a lower idle speed. But once you're on the throttle, the increased rpm will handle the additional alternator load.
Not to worry as long as you don't let the engine idle for long periods of time. That could eventually drain the battery.
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:13 pm

bigbird wrote:
12.2A @ 14V only equals an additional 171W.
It sounds like your requirement is for heated clothing and/or grips. You should be fine at any rpm above idle. The alternator will compensate for increased load by strengthening its magnetic field. This will make the rotor harder to turn, resulting in a lower idle speed. But once you're on the throttle, the increased rpm will handle the additional alternator load.
Not to worry as long as you don't let the engine idle for long periods of time. That could eventually drain the battery.


Yes..and maybe a gps eventually...

It's 14v, not 12v, on the wire..?
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:50 pm

The charging system will have at least 14V going into the battery while the engine is running. That higher voltage is needed to overcome the battery's internal resistance and keep the battery charged. While the engine is running, your battery will show at least 14V on a DC ammeter. When the ignition and engine are off, the line voltage will drop back down to that of the battery, about 12.6V when fully charged.
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:24 pm

bigbird wrote:
The charging system will have at least 14V going into the battery while the engine is running. That higher voltage is needed to overcome the battery's internal resistance and keep the battery charged. While the engine is running, your battery will show at least 14V on a DC ammeter. When the ignition and engine are off, the line voltage will drop back down to that of the battery, about 12.6V when fully charged.


ok..

What saddle bags are those in your picture..?
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:33 pm

Pathfinder wrote:

What saddle bags are those in your picture..?


Givi T-427.
Now discontinued but replaced by these:

http://www.giviusa.com/soft-luggages/Saddle-bags/
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:53 pm

bigbird wrote:
Pathfinder wrote:

What saddle bags are those in your picture..?


Givi T-427.
Now discontinued but replaced by these:

http://www.giviusa.com/soft-luggages/Saddle-bags/


How do you keep it from melting..?
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:34 pm

Pathfinder wrote:

How do you keep it from melting..?


Never was a problem, even with the extra hot stock catalytic muffler. As long as I had a 2" air gap between the bottom of the bag and top of the muffler I never had a problem. With the LeoVince muffler there's much less heat produced (straight through design and no catalyst) and I would only need about 3/4" clearance.
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:18 pm

bigbird wrote:
Pathfinder wrote:

How do you keep it from melting..?


Never was a problem, even with the extra hot stock catalytic muffler. As long as I had a 2" air gap between the bottom of the bag and top of the muffler I never had a problem. With the LeoVince muffler there's much less heat produced (straight through design and no catalyst) and I would only need about 3/4" clearance.


From that link... do you know if they all have the same clearance..?
Does one of them specifically replace the 427..?
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:01 am

The T449's look most similar to the T427's.
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PostSubject: Re: Specific 12v power points   Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:29 pm

bigbird wrote:
The T449's look most similar to the T427's.


Ok, thank you...

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