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PostSubject: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 17, 2017 3:44 pm

Hello,

I am looking for a replacement for the stock windscreen, which is a tad too tall for me. Would the Givi Air-Flow windscreen be adjustable enough that it could be shorter than the stock Honda one?

Also, can the top part be easily removed? I want to buy an enclosed trailer but the current windscreen does not clear the loading ramp.

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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 17, 2017 4:00 pm

Yes, and yes.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 18, 2017 10:40 am

Take it off in less than 4 seconds. The top can go back on in 7 seconds.

It actually works well as a wind screen with the top off. By design it deflects quite a bit of wind away from the rider.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 18, 2017 11:22 am

Thank you all for the information. That is the way to go then!
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One more question. Do I have to drill holes to install it? I think they sell an "optional" installation kit that is recommended but not required - any advice on this? Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 18, 2017 12:26 pm

To 'drill' the extra hole either side if using the extra brackets, all you need is a sharpish drill bit of about the right size and a firm but gentle hand.
The captive nut is behind the plastic; just grip the bit tightly, exert some pressure whilst turning it and you will cut through without damaging the threads at the top of the nut.
It really is very straightforward.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 18, 2017 12:46 pm

Modernman1953 wrote:
It actually works well as a wind screen with the top off.  By design it deflects quite a bit of wind away from the rider.  

I disagree with your claim, it doesn't and it's horrendous. After losing my first top screen at 70mph I still had about 100 miles to ride home. The ride went from comfortable and quiet to a cacophony of wind noise and wind chill.

In fact when I got up high on the A66 Trans-Pennines road I was to stop and put on an extra insulating layer as I was shivering. When I got home I was chilled, my jacket and helmet and visor were covered in dead insects and splattered bugs.

The wind noise was awful, usually my Schuberth helmet and custom fit ear plugs effectively cut down harmful noise. The noise and discomfort of riding without the top screen for a couple of hours overwhelmed the effectiveness of my ear plugs, and my ears were ringing for hours afterwards.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 18, 2017 2:28 pm

Mike0: are the extra brackets required? Recommended?

Meldrew: so sorry to hear about your bad experience. May I ask how you lost the top screen? Are they not stable enough?

Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 18, 2017 3:36 pm

There has been much debate about the extra brackets; I fitted them as they were supplied and I thought I had to; it was not difficult.

However, subsequently it was said on this forum that the mounting kit was universal for Givi Silverwing screens and that the brackets were necessary only for the tall screen.
I can't say either way since I simply don't know. It does make sense, though.

If you do fit them you will possibly feel more confident with the whole business.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 18, 2017 6:12 pm

I highly recommend the brackets. Without them the windshield is only supported by the rubber mounted nuts. By having the brackets in place there is much less flex in the wind at speed. Also that rear most screw being attached to the bike's frame makes for a much stronger mount. I've installed two non-adjustable Givis and one adjustable one. I put the first one on sans brackets and ended up removing it to install the brackets because I didn't like the flexing in windy conditions.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 19, 2017 12:12 pm

Do the brackets come with tha windscreen or do they need to be ordered separately?
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Mine came with the screen, as did all the bolts and other bits.
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 19, 2017 2:45 pm

Depends on the seller. Twisted Throttle is where I purchased two Givi shields provided the intallation kits (brackets and screws) with the windshield. Other vendors may charge extra for them. Right now Twisted throttle has reduced prices on both the Adjustable and fixed windshields.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/givi-airflow-windscreen-for-honda-silverwing-600-01-13
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PostSubject: Re: Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS?   Givi Air-Flow windscreen-Can it be shorter than the stock WS? I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 20, 2017 2:51 am

Meldrew wrote:
Modernman1953 wrote:
It actually works well as a wind screen with the top off.  By design it deflects quite a bit of wind away from the rider.  

I disagree with your claim, it doesn't and it's horrendous. After losing my first top screen at 70mph I still had about 100 miles to ride home. The ride went from comfortable and quiet to a cacophony of wind noise and wind chill.

In fact when I got up high on the A66 Trans-Pennines road I was to stop and put on an extra insulating layer as I was shivering. When I got home I was chilled, my jacket and helmet and visor were covered in dead insects and splattered bugs.

The wind noise was awful, usually my Schuberth helmet and custom fit ear plugs effectively cut down harmful noise. The noise and discomfort of riding without the top screen for a couple of hours overwhelmed the effectiveness of my ear plugs, and my ears were ringing for hours afterwards.

Sorry you had a problem with your shield and had that much distance to travel without the top part.

I never said it would be comfortable at 70 mph.  The factory screen was terrible at 70 mph as well.  I meant riding around the city at 45 mph in 80 degree temperature, as it does ok in that type of service.
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