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PostSubject: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 02, 2015 11:18 pm

Hello.
Have anybody tried hid/led kit to silverwing ?
Want a better light spesially on low beam.
Any tips will be appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2015 3:08 am

Have you tried using the search function and typing in HID headlights. There are a plethora of threads concerning this matter. Also, have you checked regulations for such conversions. What works for one place may not work for others.
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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2015 9:09 am

While there have been plenty of conversions to Xenon/HID lights, I don't believe I have ever seen anyone change the Headlight to LED lighting.
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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 03, 2015 1:01 pm

I've used a (low beam) HID conversion for years. It really illuminates the road and, more importantly, the road side. But because the bulb is so bright the headlight aim must be carefully adjusted so that you dont blind oncoming traffic. I removed the light and ballast after it failed when I repeatedly flashed the light to warn oncoming traffic about an accident I had just passed on a windy back road. The bulb and ballast (the two major components) were replaced under warranty with new items. However I never got around to putting them back in the scoot. I'll be glad to sell you the kit at a reasonable price if you are interested. PM me.

Here is a link to an ADVrider forum discussion about LED headlight conversions:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=948701

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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 04, 2015 3:34 pm

I have myself recenty upgraded from the standard fitment head and dipped H7 bulbs on my Wing, to the OSRAM Nightrider(s) which have about 120% increase in light output, and approx 40 Metres additional lighting range ahead.    A really big improvement.

I did this for a number of reasons, primarily as a good safety improvement and in addition as I shall be heading to Denmark and Sweden for a month this June with the Wing, and expect to cover around  2,500 to 3,000 miles from departure from the UK until my return., it pays to be really visible on the roads !  What with Elke and Deer roaming these parts :rendeer: - you do not want accidentally  to hit anything that's stationary or roaming the country roads !

This is a big improvement in the lighting, and is really noticeable, compared with the standard lights.

I have also retro fitted, low energy demand, white auxilliary Led lights to the front windscreen, being white diagonal on edges and 2 further horizontal rows at the bottom edge.

With the addition of 4 rows of vertical Red Led' s fitted to the top box, and having integrated in to the bikes standard lighting circuits, it makes the vehicle even more visible, which is always a good thing !
Lighting improvements are well worth doing, even allowing as they operate at a much higher temperature that equates to on average a shorter lifespan for the bulb.
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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 04, 2015 5:27 pm

Stuart Walker wrote:
I have myself recenty upgraded from the standard fitment head and dipped H7 bulbs on my Wing, to the OSRAM Nightrider(s) which have about 120% increase in light output, and approx 40 Metres additional lighting range ahead.    A really big improvement.

This is a big improvement in the lighting, and is really noticeable, compared with the standard lights.

I have also retro fitted, low energy demand, white auxilliary Led lights to the front windscreen, being white diagonal on edges and 2 further horizontal rows at the bottom edge.

So that explains where the aurora borealis come from over here Smile
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PostSubject: Elke and Deer roaming these parts   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 04, 2015 8:36 pm

Hello.
Maybe this will help.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xwild+animal+elert+whistle.TRS0&_nkw=wild+animal+elert+whistle&_sacat=0

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quote="Stuart Walker"]I have myself recenty upgraded from the standard fitment head and dipped H7 bulbs on my Wing, to the OSRAM Nightrider(s) which have about 120% increase in light output, and approx 40 Metres additional lighting range ahead.    A really big improvement.

I did this for a number of reasons, primarily as a good safety improvement and in addition as I shall be heading to Denmark and Sweden for a month this June with the Wing, and expect to cover around  2,500 to 3,000 miles from departure from the UK until my return., it pays to be really visible on the roads !  What with Elke and Deer roaming these parts  :rendeer:  - you do not want accidentally  to hit anything that's stationary or roaming the country roads !

This is a big improvement in the lighting, and is really noticeable, compared with the standard lights.

I have also retro fitted, low energy demand, white auxilliary Led lights to the front windscreen, being white diagonal on edges and 2 further horizontal rows at the bottom edge.

With the addition of 4 rows of vertical Red Led' s fitted to the top box, and having integrated in to the bikes standard lighting circuits, it makes the vehicle even more visible, which is always a good thing !
Lighting improvements are well worth doing, even allowing as they operate at a much higher temperature that equates to on average a shorter lifespan for the bulb.[/quote]
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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 05, 2015 8:11 am

Hello Bob

Many thanks indeed for your kind reply, and for the link to the informative external sonic animal deterant device !
I was aware of UK versions for domestic animals, but having a 12 volt mobile version looks something that is worth looking in to as a fitment...

Thanks again
Stuart
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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 08, 2015 8:38 pm

I would not suggest putting a HID bulb into a reflector housing. The light output is not at the correct focal length for proper cutoff which means you will be blinding oncoming traffic. I am running a HID projector in my low beam which has the proper cutoff to not blind anyone. Its been a few years since I messed with it and now there's a H7R bulb available which may have a better cutoff in a stock reflector but the best results will be obtained with a proper projector.
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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 08, 2015 10:44 pm

andyman wrote:
I would not suggest putting a HID bulb into a reflector housing.  The light output is not at the correct focal length for proper cutoff which means you will be blinding oncoming traffic.  I am running a HID projector in my low beam which has the proper cutoff to not blind anyone.  Its been a few years since I messed with it and now there's a H7R bulb available which may have a better cutoff in a stock reflector but the best results will be obtained with a proper projector.

Okay, Inquiring minds want to know. What kind of HID projector are you using in your SW? How about a link please.

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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 09, 2015 7:59 am

Many thanks indeed for your kind reply, and for the link to the informative external sonic animal deterant device !
I was aware of UK versions for domestic animals, but having a 12 volt mobile version looks something that is worth looking in to as a fitment...>>>>>>>> PLEASE note that these critters hear in about the same range of hearing as we do, I tried the Electronic versions of the alerts and found they attracted dogs as much as anything, at least set them to howling and running after me. YOMV but slowing down in the evening and morning hours and keeping the watchful eye on full alert will do as much as any alert system.
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PostSubject: Re: Hid on silverwing   Hid on silverwing I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 09, 2015 8:47 pm

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:

Okay, Inquiring minds want to know. What kind of HID projector are you using in your SW? How about a link please.

Tim

I already responded to your PM, but stay tuned all. This weekend my scoot goes under the knife for more HID fun & some maintenance and color changing action. Will make a new thread to not stomp on the HID question here.

Ebay projectors work but I have had real good success with stuff from here http://www.theretrofitsource.com/
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