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PostSubject: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 31, 2013 6:52 am

I get a new bike/scooter each year----big scooter market pretty dead in US, lots of left over SilverWings in my area....I suspect it will not be marketed much longer when Honda has some pretty good bikes @ $2-3000 less!

I may buy a 650 Suzuki----reason no belt changes/electric windshield/easier rear wheel removal but way over priced.

Another SilverWing is my second choice---Southern Honda offered $7800 for fresh one----SilverWing is old design and requires $$ to make it rideable, namely the GIVI adjustable windshield/Baker air wing on side and GIVI rack At least another $600 and then cost of spare belt to carry along. And if comes with Hoop tires, the cost of getting rid of them----Why?? Rear wears square, front Cups on SilverWing---funny I just got a comfortable 30,000 miles out of Hoop on Burgman 400 front, but had at least 2 Hoop rear failures on my Reflex.

Riding a lot/doing my own work, I buy only new---annual mileage is at east 30,000 miles. Smartest is to keep only one bike on road---have 2 now and hoping to be down to one before end of year.

I did try new Forza the other day===price right, valve adjustment @ 16,000 miles but shims,no expensive oil requirements, no mention of belt changes in owner's manual that I could find--I guess ride until it breaks. Minus: it needs a windshield, GIVI rack,has spec tires-----and for me draw back: it rides like rigid frame bike or lumber wagon. Power and performance is there.
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 31, 2013 1:02 pm

Ever thought of the Tmax from Yamaha or the new one from BMW or one of the things coming from Korea now SYM, or Kymco John?Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 31, 2013 4:54 pm

TMAX was flop in US, not brought here anymore---I had one, but as miles pile up they are expensive to keep on road....but nice handling/fast. As BMW owner since 1958, I did test one, overpriced, Taiwan heart (Kymco) rode ok but high seat height....and BMW has marketed some real junk over the years, my experience.
Kymco I know has cheaper parts, but nothing interrsting for me at this time. Korea: I had new Daelim 125 scooter most recent time living there= wonderful and tuff. Their 250 has Kymco powertrain---Dealim no longer imported to US.
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 31, 2013 6:46 pm

After two years, I thought about a new bike myself.
The new models look tempting, especially the Honda F6B , the stripped down Goldwing.
But I just renewed my Silverwing's tags for another two years so a new bike for me will have to wait awhile.
John, I thought you might look at the Kymco My Road 700 , it's their new flagship being offered over here for the first time.
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeSun May 04, 2014 8:16 am

Went to a local Honda Dealer and was all set to trade my Silverwing in until
they offered me a trade in value of only $1800
My 2007 only has 11k miles , tires were new at 8500 and belt just replaced at 10k

They also tried to claim it had an oil leak which I know to be not true since it doesn't
use oil between changes .
Not having just fallen off the turnip truck , I got irate and walked out
If I get get another bike, I'm just going to keep the Silverwing . I also have no intention of ever going back to that dealer again. Just so no one gets the wrong impression, that dealer is not the one located in Newcastle, DE
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeSun May 04, 2014 6:38 pm

They offered trade in value.Maybe low idn what Kelly says.
I was in a dealer and said something about a bike on floor.He thought I brought my swing in to trade ,he didnt want anything to do with a swing setting on his floor.
Bla Bla I guess I miss you guys lol
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeSun May 04, 2014 7:23 pm

I took my '05 maroon SW in for a trade on a VTX and he asked what I wanted. I said 3.5k. He said sorry, I can't deal with you. A lady walked in and said she wanted a scooter like the one out in the parking lot and pointed at mine through the window. He knew her husband as a regular customer I found out later, but he just looked at me and said ok, it's a deal. Dealers are fun IF you are not desperate or have that hungry look in your eyes.
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeSun May 04, 2014 9:39 pm

I guess they thought I'd be dumb enough to take the deal after I had sat on the floor model
and ridden the 26 miles to their dealership .
Perhaps they wanted no part of having a Silverwing in their used bike inventory.
Maybe business has been so good for them , they didn't need my money.
Regardless, it raised my blood pressure and I'll never set foot in their
dealership again.
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PostSubject: Re: 6 months to new bike time   6 months to new bike time I_icon_minitimeSun May 04, 2014 10:00 pm

I got $2,000 for my 07 with 34,000 miles. They thought that that is somewhat excessive for a scooter and they have a tougher time selling used scooters. I thought I should have gotten more but I was kind of excited to get the new bike. I would say $1800 is really low considering the low miles you have.
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