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PostSubject: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 04, 2013 12:44 am

Is there any kind of guidelines to go by, as far as depreciation-price ,on a silverwing?
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 04, 2013 8:40 am

Kelly Blue Book, NADA (I think that the correct acronym).

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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 04, 2013 12:57 pm

kbb.com and
nadaguides.com

I think.

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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 04, 2013 1:58 pm

GHM-PM wrote:
kbb.com and
nadaguides.com

I think.

I can only get automotive values. No bikes. Using my iphone anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 04, 2013 2:41 pm

hotwings wrote:
GHM-PM wrote:
kbb.com and
nadaguides.com

I think.

I can only get automotive values. No bikes. Using my iphone anyways.

Um try this one:

http://www.nadaguides.com/Motorcycles
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 04, 2013 4:42 pm

Yep this link works good. Little discouraging seeing the current value of my toys. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 04, 2013 5:30 pm

Actually I was kind of pleased that my 2012 that MSRP was 9270.00 is still worth almost 9K at retail. Whether it would sell for that is another matter
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 05, 2013 9:05 pm

I never look at kbb (unless I`m purchasing) also, I would not take the prices too seriously....you need to add up all the extras that it would cost you to add on.
It`s like a person who works a job on salary...if you add up all the hours you actually work....it can be depressing.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 06, 2013 6:31 pm

there's a dealer in st.louis, that has a '10,red, for $7610 or make a reasonable offer.
And one in upper iowa, that's a '12,black,for $6495.
These are both zero miles.
The black one would be nice, but it would be a solid 6 hour drive,one-way for me.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 06, 2013 8:58 pm

A 6 hour drive one way for a 2012 Swing and a$1000. saving is a good deal .You could do it in 2 days and you are still getting a better deal.Rent a economy car,take a friend and take turns riding your Swing back to home base. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 5:16 am

MCN---Motorcycle Consumer News---prints US used values on bikes/scooters at least once a year. Remember "trade in" and retail value are two different things. My take as Maxi scooters are not selling well new, now, used values are probably down. ----I buy new, ride a lot and usually get my money's worth from Honda, do own service and do not let dealers install stuff like luggage racks/windshields/tires, ofen good way to get bike screwed up from get go.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 6:56 am

John is right there a 2010 In cycle trader for $4295 and more, just don,t no how far from your location.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 7:04 am

One thing, if you're going to finance the purchase, some lenders will only give the blue book value for the model year (as if it was a used bike) instead of
the full purchase price.
I found that out when I purchased my left over 2007 in 2011.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 7:20 am

For someone ho intends to keep his Swing for many years to come,the depreciation won't affect the resale in the long run. It is till a new 07 that was purchase in 2011 . To sell to a private buyer mean's less ware and tar for the years it was on the road.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 9:22 am

I have always gone by: The only people who sell a good scoot are those that have problems or need the money....and if they need the money...they may not have kept up the recent maint.
The only exception: They are buying a new one (in that case) their bike probably has a lot of miles on it.
That is why I stay new.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 9:43 am

Purchase new 07---I just read-----my take/warning....even if bike has sat in warehouse for 6 years, rubber stuff has started to age, tires right out of box need replacing (age)----it had better be cheap= equal or less for used of that year! Since I worked hard for my money, I like new and fresh.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 9:48 am

I agree with the above posts. I am not above buying a left-over but two years is about it... Any more than that and like has been stated above things need replacing like rubber and battery etc. But if it is a good enough deal then... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 10:20 am

The 2010 Swing has 19k + miles 2 new never rode on tire at a dealer . Honda manual recommend 's to change the oil at 8k + miles. Most of us will change at5k miles .A dealer would certainly have change the oil along with the new tires.They would also give a 30 days warranty and 30 days safety check by law..That is one good thing when buying used from a Honda dealer.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 08, 2013 11:43 am

I do know that Most Honda Dealers live on commission...so...they will cut when they can get away with it.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 08, 2013 11:57 am

If its has to do with the safety check that they have to give a 30 day certified inspection that the mechanic has to sign off on ho take full responsibility for the vehicle. In my country they do not cut corners for fear of losing there licence certificate.A dealer won't take that chance.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 08, 2013 3:46 pm

i actually had my 09 up for sale 5400.i seen an 09 at dutchess recreational vehicles in poughkeepsie ny retail out for 6400 bone stock. mine has about just under 1000.00 in extras and chrome. 14500 babyed miles 4000 mile synthetic oil changes. new rubber front and back. if it sells fine and if not no worries it only coasts 71.00 a month payment. good to see you all on da forum :-)
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 08, 2013 6:05 pm

Thanks, for the heads up on cycle trader, i didn't even think of looking there.
I've got the oil changed and a couple lil things and cleaned up my majesty.
I've got the money to buy the swing, but i'd rather sell the one i have first,than be stuck with it,if you know what i mean.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 08, 2013 6:22 pm

I think I'd rather get a deal on a new leftover than buy an early model Silver Wing that's less fuel efficient, non ABS equipped, and had a clueless home mechanic or two playing about with the oily bits over the years.

There alway seems to be a demand on here for repair and maintenance manuals, and let's be honest for every competent home mechanic out there, there's half a dozen heavy handed thread stripping bodgers. Neutral



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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 09, 2013 5:19 am

Meldrew wrote:

There alway seems to be a demand on here for repair and maintenance manuals, and let's be honest for every competent home mechanic out there, there's half a dozen heavy handed thread stripping bodgers. Neutral


Got to agree wholehearted with you there Meldrew.
(I used to have a torque wrench but I bent it doing up the sump plug nut on the Silverwing!)

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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 09, 2013 6:11 am

rarmacburner

You must have used that torque wrench in dum dum still .
One man holding the wrench.
2 men running the Swing. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 10, 2013 4:51 am

Dammit!, I thought you had never been to OZ, Tarmacburner.
Evil or Very Mad Did you ever work for Causeway "H" when you were over here? Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 11, 2013 8:09 am

A left over a year or two old bought at a good price is okay if you are going to keep it for a at least a few years but if you have to sell it sooner you will lose. Better to buy a no mile bike because you don't get any past history (no worries) and it comes with a warrantee. Also finance rates will be less than used.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 16, 2013 11:53 am

I just bought a 2010 silverwing from a old guy in Lufkin tx.
I did look at the NADA price that was the abs model. BUT
NADA does not have the non abs price. Nada price was
saying$6.240 so i brought the info to the sellers attention.
He said $6'200 was HIS selling price. So i asked him if he
would take $6k for it because i had to trailer it back tto
Houston. He said he would take that offer$6k. So i did buy
it the bike ONLY has 620 actual miles on it. And ithas the
GIVI tall windscreen and LED driving lights. I do think i
got a good deal because the guy had it serviced at 400
miles and the bike still has that brand new smell and it is
in mint condition

The dealers here in Houston and surrounding areas are
asking ALOT higher for there with 0 miles. I do not like
the black color of the new swings cuz it is to dark
especailly when riding at night.. Then you have to pay
$700.00 more from the dealer tax title and so fourth.
Ghost Rider Greg
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 16, 2013 12:17 pm

Greg,

I bought my 2009 no ABS with 3700 miles in Sept. 2010 for 5200 .00. It had a tall Givi Wind screen and a passenger backrest. I think you made a good deal. New ones are near 9000.00. I've have put over 30,000 miles on mine since I got it. I haven't ridden since Dec 4th because the weather here in Chicago has been awful. I am itching to get on it. Especially seeing the pictures from the four corners region.

All that matters is that you are going to enjoy riding it. I know I am.

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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 16, 2013 3:30 pm

Cathy N.
You did get a good deal on your swing. I have been looking and looking
cycletrader and craigslist not far from Houston tx. Yes i have seen some
silverwings going cheaap like up in Oregon for$4.995 from a dealer. But i
have yet to see one here in houston that cheap by a dealer. They want
TOP $$$$$ for a used one or that one is still NEW but a couple of years
old.. So i am not complaing on the $6k that i spent on my NEW used
ride. I DID TRY to get a better deal from the seller but he would not
go any lower then that. He took off the $200.00 for the gas money
in the suburben. It was not the best deal but i had to get rid of my
04 model.
Ghost rider Greg
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 16, 2013 3:32 pm

Cathy N.
You should move down s. so you could RIDE year around instead of
having to store it up for 6 months YUK.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 17, 2013 12:48 am

Greg,

Not quite 6 months, more like 3 to 4 months. Last year on St Patrick's Day we had temps in the low 80's. I rode to work more in March than in July because of the July heat wave. I keep hoping for the end of winter.

I also, bought my Swing from an elderly gentleman in southern IL. We trailered it home also. I found it on scooterfinds.com. Which was on craigslist.
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 17, 2013 8:40 am

KurtPerthWA wrote:
Dammit!, I thought you had never been to OZ, Tarmacburner.
Evil or Very Mad Did you ever work for Causeway "H" when you were over here? Evil or Very Mad

Whats this 'work' word mean? Wheres my Rolex? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 30, 2013 7:33 pm

Darn
I forgot what a NEW ride felt like to my OLD swing.This NEW
swing is so smooth and i am taking my time to get above 60 per
hour i am NOT in a rush to get anywhere.I WILL takwe my time going
to my own funeral lol. Cux i am always late going somewhere.. I will
have my brother take out ther switch in the right compartment. The
previous owner installed LED running lites with that switch.My brother
will hook the led lites to the headlamp. AND possibly do away with the 2
extra wires on the battery.. This 2010 rides so smoth and rides very
comfy.
Ghost rider Greg
2010 745 miles total miles so far lol
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PostSubject: Re: On buying new leftovers   On buying new leftovers I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 30, 2013 8:15 pm

Greg,

Congrats on your new SWing. What year was your older SWing? I know my SWing is smooth and it is a 2007 and just yesterday I was on the interstate going about 70 and noticed that is just purrs along. I wonder how much smoother these SWings would feel if they had rubber engine mounts.
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