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PostSubject: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 8:58 am

I know honda's are manufactured all over the world, the hornet and cb1000r in italy, the transalp in spain then italy when the Montessa factory closed, and the cbf 125 in india, cg 125 in Brazil, ect ect, but where is the silverwing made???? does anybody know?? Question
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 10:02 am

Hi Marco,

The first two letters are the key as to where your Silverwing was manufactured.

Check this thread out.

http://researchmaniacs.com/VIN/Where-is-my-car-or-truck-made.html
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 10:12 am

Well, thanks for the info, Dennis.

I've checked & mine was made in Japan: not surprising really as it's a right-hand drive model & of course, they drive on the left in Japan, the same as us here.... Wink :lol!:
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 1:14 pm

The SilverWing comes from a 'SilverWing-ed Stork' - I thought everyone knew that!

PS - If you have not yet seen the 'Stork' SHORT on the DVD 'UP' (go to the special features part of the menu) - then check it out - it is hilarious! Well worth 6 minutes of your time:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partly_Cloudy HISTORY


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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 2:04 pm

Mine is JH so for sure Japan as is my wife's 2009 Metropolitan (JH also). Interesting thing is the 2013 Metropolitan is not a J VIN number; not sure what it was but did not start with a J.

The Honda 150 had a VIN that started with a Z indicating Italy or Slovenia...
Good link above; allows us to pin them down!!! Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 4:06 pm

My 'Wing' came from under a gooseberry bush!!!!!

Honest! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 5:21 pm

Mine came from the rear end of a large truck!!!! affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 09, 2012 7:39 pm

Mine no suprise Japan JH but my 150cc TaoTao is L9,,, No surprise there also !
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 10, 2012 3:24 pm

Another question that has come to mind, can you check year of manufacture, anywhere against the vin number??? so to check if your new s/wing is in fact a new s/wing. Question
and thanks for the info Dennis.
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PostSubject: Where did the S/W come from?   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 10, 2012 4:26 pm

that is strange. I always thought it came from heaven. :lol!:
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 10, 2012 7:17 pm

marco wrote:
Another question that has come to mind, can you check year of manufacture, anywhere against the vin number??? so to check if your new s/wing is in fact a new s/wing. Question
and thanks for the info Dennis.


The 10th number of the vin is the year your scooter was built. I'm not sure if that answers your question.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 10, 2012 10:20 pm

You can look on the VIN sticker. My 2011 Shadow was built 7/11 (love it, maybe I'll name her Slurpee Laughing ) in Japan.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 2:56 am

moose daisy, the 10th number or didget ???, cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 8:16 am

just checked on the internet, it is the 10th digit which tells which year, mine is 7 , on a new bike,!!! I was quite shocked at the thought of having an 07 model new in 2012, so I phoned my dealer who said,- the silverwing has been a FJ600A since 2007 , so honda dont progress the 10th diget because the model hasn;t changed. I would apreciate any information on this subject , as I hope my new silverwing isn;t five year old.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 8:46 am


My 08 has an 8 for the 10th digit
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 11, 2012 10:49 pm

marco wrote:
just checked on the internet, it is the 10th digit which tells which year, mine is 7 , on a new bike,!!! I was quite shocked at the thought of having an 07 model new in 2012, so I phoned my dealer who said,- the silverwing has been a FJ600A since 2007 , so honda dont progress the 10th diget because the model hasn;t changed. I would apreciate any information on this subject , as I hope my new silverwing isn;t five year old.

That doesn't sound right.

What does your paperwork say (bill of sale, title, registration)? They should have the real year on them (it's fraud if they don't).

There's also a sticker IIRC behind the front wheel above the radiator on the right side of the bike that has the year and manufacturing date on it. You'll have to crouch down in front of the bike and look past the wheel towards the cooling resevour to see it.

FWIW, my 10th digit is a "C" on my 2012.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 10:53 am

no iirc label behind the front wheel, and believe me Ive checked, Ive found the VIN plate on the frame just in front of the exhaust down pipe, and also underneath that a lobe, on the bottom of the frame with the VIN stamped on it??
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 12, 2012 11:32 pm

This is the website I found to decipher your VIN number ... I think it works the same for scoots and MC as it does for autos and trucks ...

http://jalopnik.com/5165656/how-to-decode-your-cars-vin
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 3:03 am

thanks jobo, this site indicated the tenth digit to be the 'model year', which on mine is a 7, so I suppose if the model hasn;t changed, a 2012 bike will still have a 7 for itd 10th digit????,, confused!! Rolling Eyes
If the tenth digit on the vin is the year model, and not the year of manufacture, then Im happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 3:44 am

Marco, The label on mine is above the tire on the right hand side. More on the inside of the fairing. Mine is a 2007 and the tenth diget is 7 and there is a large 2007 at the bottom of the label.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 4:13 pm

Ive searched all inside the front wheel arch inner fairing, around the water top up tank, and all the inner fairing, no label, Sad
I had a great ride tonight on the SW, I love it to bits, so I'll not take it any further, my honda man says its a 600 A7, which is still in production but unchanged since ;07, so Ill take his word for it and get on with clocking up the miles with a big smile on my face, cheers for the replys everyone. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 4:50 pm

Do you have an O2 sensor on your exhaust?
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 4:55 pm

marco wrote:
just checked on the internet, it is the 10th digit which tells which year, mine is 7 on a new bike. ,

marco I think you may want to check a little deeper in to the model year of your scooter. My 08 has an 8 for the 10th digit and I would think yours should indicate yours as a 2012. What color is your scooter? Is it black or is it dark metallic silver? I believe a 2012 is black and a 2007 is Dark Metallic Silver.
Hear is a link to a 2007 Silverwing, http://www.hondanews.com/channels/powersports-scooters-silver-wing/releases/2007-honda-silver-wing-abs-silver-wing-features and hear is a link to a 2012 Silverwing,
http://www.hondanews.com/channels/powersports-scooters-silver-wing-features/releases/2012-honda-silver-wing-features-and-benefits
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 6:37 pm

It could be new left over 2007 .
I don't there's any substantial differences between 2007 and the the 2012
models.
What year does it say on the owners manual that came with the bike ?
The model year would also be on your title and registration
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 13, 2012 7:39 pm

I agree it could be new left over 2007 and about all that I can think of that would be different is, O2 sensor, fuel mileage and of coarse Kelly blue book price. If I paid the price of a 2012 Silverwing and I got a left over 2007 I would be vary upset to say the least. That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen, especially hear in the USA.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 14, 2012 6:54 am

For what it's worth, I own a 2007 bought new in December 2011
The 10th digit in it's serial number is 7
I knew up front it was a left over and got a substantial price break over
the cost of a 2012 model from the dealer I purchased it from.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 14, 2012 8:29 am

"Hi Yo" wrote:
Marco, The label on mine is above the tire on the right hand side. More on the inside of the fairing. Mine is a 2007 and the tenth diget is 7 and there is a large 2007 at the bottom of the label.

Mine is here as well and there is a large 2012 a the bottom; in addition in small print it lists manufacture date as 02/12.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 14, 2012 11:20 am

thanks for the links rodger, Ive read them both, how do you tell the difference???. The first thing I checked was the oxygen sensor which is there. In the uk the black s/wing has been available since '08. There definatly isn't a label under the front wheel arch, and Ive checked very carefully with a torch, and there isnt any adhesive residue, or scratch marks telling me a label has been removed.
In the UK the reg/document only gives you the date of registration, and the VIN number. Honda dealer says its a new model, if an '07 and a '12 is the same, I have no way of being able to tell the difference. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 14, 2012 3:42 pm

I cant say anything about the UK but my 08 is Metallic Grey color and looks black with little metal flakes in it. I would someone from the UK would be of some help. Again I ask what color is yours?
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 4:08 am

sorry Rodger mine is black , listed by honda as 'pure black'.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 4:43 am

Hello.
If it have stock bridgestone tyres on it, you can look
at the production date on them to give you an idea
of when it was made.

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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 5:41 am

My tenth digit is 5 and i have a 2005. I also have the VIN sticker underneath the front fairing that clearly states in big block numbers that its a 2005.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 7:44 am

the tyre has no date, its a hoopHO2A, BO2, with a code TKA4111,which means nothing to me. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 1:14 pm

marco wrote:
the tyre has no date, its a hoopHO2A, BO2, with a code TKA4111,which means nothing to me. Sad

TKA = Plant where the tire was made IIRC (I might be wrong)

4111 = 41st week of 2011. That's about when my tires on my 2012 were made (mine are slightly, but only slightly, newer and IRCs - but the date is important).

I can't imagine anyone replacing the front tire on a left-over bike that isn't being ridden. I also can't imagine anyone putting the O2 sensor on it. So there's something different with your VIN than what others are seeing, but it might be a UK thing (you are sure it's the VIN, and not another number, right (it starts with a J, not an "H" like a part number does)? Maybe the UK doesn't let manufacturers market an unchanged model as a new model?
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 3:31 pm

jmaslak, bounce , thank you, at last. If the tyres are 2011, then thats the proof for me. The machine does look new, no fasteners or any metalwork has gone cloudy, two honda dealers have said its a 2007 model , but nothing has changed so machines being made now are 2007 models, the VIN is right the tenth digit gives the 'year model' not the year of manufacture', a third honda dealer told me today, if the machine is registered as a 2012 model , in the future it will be valued on the registration date, not the VIN date(10th digit).
The only doubt in my mind was the lack of IIRC label under the front wheel, which did worry me. Now Im satisfied, and wont take this any further, Ive been out on the s/wing today with the wifey on the back, we both loved it.
Thanks for everyones imput on this subject, the s/wing owners community are a friendly helpfull bunch. cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 5:17 pm

At least you will be able to trade it in as a 2012 scooter! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 5:53 pm

I may be wrong but! For we Brits, aren't we confusing date of manufacture with date of registration!!!

My 59 plated Wing was manufactured in 07. From what I have gleaned, there was quite a lull on buying compared to the numbers produced. Hence many 07 produced machines still being sold/registered several years later.

When I was sold my Wing in 2009 I was informed it was a 2007 machine.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 15, 2012 5:57 pm

john123 wrote:
that is strange. I always thought it came from heaven. :lol!:
No silly, the swing is the illegitimate child of a one night affair between a Goldwing and a floosy crotch rocket.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 16, 2012 5:33 am

I think the confusion was the tenth digit being 'year model' and not 'year of manufacture'.
I bought a hornet 900 about five years ago, it had been in the dealers warehouse for four years 'new old stock' they call it. I bought it as a new bike, but with a big discount, so I was happy with it. I dont think paying full retail price for 'new old stock' is fair.
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PostSubject: Re: Where does the silverwing come from????   Where does the silverwing come from???? I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 16, 2012 8:30 am

marco wrote:
I bought it as a new bike, but with a big discount, so I was happy with it. I dont think paying full retail price for 'new old stock' is fair.

I purchased my wife's Metropolitan in April; brand new with 1.4 miles on it but it is a 2009 model! Got a substantial discount so was happy PLUS the cool blue-white color scheme is no longer available and she loves that!

A local dealer in Phoenix has a NEW 2011 Silver Wing for $7395. MSRP was $9099 or so. Wish I had found it prior to buying my 2012 (sigh).
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