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PostSubject: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 4:42 am

Hi Silverwing riders
Can anyone tell me what is the highest wattage H7 globes that can be fitted to the Silverwing?
The low beam light is quite large and so I thought there may be a possibility that it could accept a larger wattage globe.
How about high beam,can the wattage in that be increased?
Has anyone experimented with this?
The only concern I have is of course to much heat.
What about LED Headlight globes ....does anyone have any thoughts or expertise on these? Question
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 4:46 am

For those of us who do not understand the term 'globes'. What are you actually referring too.
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 5:10 am

Waspie wrote:
For those of us who do not understand the term 'globes'. What are you actually referring too.
Hi Doug
Talking about the headlights ...ie high and low beam
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 6:28 am

Thanks graemec, do I assume them we are talking about the actual bulbs or lamps. You wouldn't think that the 'common' English language could be so confusing.

That said, I seem to remember this topic was discussed in the past, I will have a search and try to locate the info. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 6:36 am

Here is a link to a thread which discusses the H7 bulb. It also makes reference to a 65 watt bulb. May not be exactly what you are looking for but may have something of interest!


https://www.silverwing600.com/t2493-up-grading-silverwing-head-light-bulbs?highlight=h4+bulbs
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 7:23 am

Waspie wrote:
Here is a link to a thread which discusses the H7 bulb. It also makes reference to a 65 watt bulb. May not be exactly what you are looking for but may have something of interest!


https://www.silverwing600.com/t2493-up-grading-silverwing-head-light-bulbs?highlight=h4+bulbs

Hey waspie
Thank you very much.
The URL pretty much sums up what i was looking for!
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PostSubject: H7 globes   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 10:04 am

All the professionals I dealt with called them 'lamps'. Bulbs are things that are planted in the ground to grow !!
Do I sound enough like Meldrew now ??
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 11:34 am

Indeed but we talk about low-energy light-bulbs and headlight bulbs not low-energy light-lamps or headlight-lamps.
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 3:30 pm

You do but the professionals don't !!!!
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 4:15 pm

bikerboy wrote:
All the professionals I dealt with called them 'lamps'. Bulbs are things that are planted in the ground to grow !!
Do I sound enough like Meldrew now ??

Since you dragged my name into this, I call them bulbs and so do Halfords, Hein Gericke, BikeViz, and a couple of other websites I looked at. Who were the "professionals" you dealt with, Bodie and Doyle?


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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 4:45 pm

You do

Yes, like 99% of the rest of the population of the UK.

Some 'Professionals' have the habit of using the wrong word for things to try to make out they're better than the rest of us.

Sutures instead of stitches springs to mind. I'll think of others in due course

The dictionaries are quite clear, too - generally speaking, a lamp is a device including a light-source - often a light-bulb but it could be a naked flame as in Aladdin's Lamp. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 27, 2012 10:06 pm

Someone once said the U.K. and the U.S. are two countries separated by a common language. Shall we make it three and add Australia?
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 4:52 am

Right then - who actually goes into their local Motor Factors or other supplier and asks for headlight 'lamps' or side-light 'lamps', assuming one doesn't buy them on line? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 5:11 am

Mate, if you ask for a headlamp you get a $250 lamp, as per spare parts manual. If you ask for a globe... or bulb you get what goes into the lamp and emits light. If you have a sealed beam you buy a sealed beam headlamp insert (chuck it out and get a semi sealed beam if you can get one so you can change the .........wait for it ............BULB or GLOBE). Any professional wacker or wanker would love to sell you a lamp when all you really need is a $10.00 bulb or globe.

I would look at 100W Plus if I was travelling around the Blue Mountains so wattle it be Coots?
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 5:24 am

The professionals were the people who actually made the things !! Meldrew, go to Blackpool and talk to the folk who produce the 'Illuminations', they're pretty clear on the subject of what is a 'bulb' !!
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 6:22 am

Yeah, but that's Blackpool!!
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 7:48 am

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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 11:00 am

bikerboy wrote:
The professionals were the people who actually made the things !! Meldrew, go to Blackpool and talk to the folk who produce the 'Illuminations', they're pretty clear on the subject of what is a 'bulb' !!

Talk to the folk that go to visit Blackpool for the Illuminations and they'll say they're "going to Blackpool see the lights". Look in your Owners Manual and there's a section how to change bulbs and the type of bulb required.
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 11:26 am

'Bulb' is the glass part of the 'lamp'. 'Lamp' refers to the complete object. (Well as far as England is concerned).

Blackpool's display is 'the Illuminations' or 'lumies'

I've lived four miles away from this light show for thirty eight years, as yet I have yet to see them. Never had a donkey ride, bought a 'Kiss Me Quick' hat,
walked down the 'Golden Mile' or had a ride on the 'Pleasure Beach'.
Bugger, I'm beginning to sound as miserable as Meldrew Exclamation

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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 28, 2012 11:32 am

roadrunner wrote:
Someone once said the U.K. and the U.S. are two countries separated by a common language. Shall we make it three and add Australia?

Indeed, why mis out our antipodean cousins. Laughing

Should we include Sarf Africa?
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11, 2012 4:12 pm

Hello,

In January, I installed a 6000K HID kit from wiremybike.com for my 2006 VFR800 Interceptor. I just e-mailed to ask them about an H7 low beam HID kit for my 2003 Silverwing 600 that has the charging timed relay. 6000K HID is probably the ideal light spectrum temperature for me. I like the additional depth-of-field I see with HID's.

The brightest non-HID lamp I found is a PIAA Extreme White Plus for a motorsports application. I've heard of people using Sylvania automobile bulbs and they don't take motorcycle vibration very well. PIAA motorsports bulbs have lasted a very long time for me as a nighttime rider. Smile

The DOT in the United States regulates wattage, but not lumens (candlepower). So the regulation is somewhere around 65 watts. For a halogen bulb, that is about 1000 lumens. For a 5% bit more lumens output, they may be designed to burn hotter with a shorter lifetime, or a hotter light spectrum with a shorter lifetime, which is fine with me if it is a durable motorsports bulb. Bulbs dim over time so I don't wait for them to burn out.

But I love the 6000K light spectrum of my VFR800. These are 35 watt HID bulbs but are efficient to have around 3000 lumens output. Since they are 35 watt, they meet U.S. DOT wattage limits, are more energy efficient and alternator/battery friendly, and they have a charge ballast/relay that times power stability approximately 5 seconds after the engine starts.

What I'll do is put the HID H7 as the low beam and a PIAA Extreme White Plus motorsports bulb for the high beam. A HID bulb as the high beam doesn't make sense because it takes time to charge the bulb and the PIAA immediately turns on.

Those are my thoughts if that helps anyone in any way.

Sincerely,

James
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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11, 2012 6:27 pm

I have DDM Tuning 35W slim ballast ( http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W ) 4500K both low beam and high beam. The high beam does take ~5-6 seconds to come up to full intensity.

I will be adding additional the LED lights and dimmer (*with a switch to trigger the alert feature)

Model 60 LED off road flood ( http://stores.intuitwebsites.com/hstrial-QualiRegResou/-strse-41/Model-60-LED-off/Detail.bok ) ... various nighttime pictures from members (
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=18433378 ). Read the details carefully there are two other models 30 and 44 .... the Model 60's are the latest and brightest.

Skene Design's IQ-170A's
- low beam dimmer
- high beam full intensity
- with "Alert!" feature ( http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/IQ_170.shtml ) ... video of Alert feature ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXQGCo25_jY )

The LEDs will turn to full brightness on high-beam while I wait for the the ~5-6 seconds for the HIDs to reach full intensity.

Then I will compare the HIDs at full intensity versus the LEDs to compare the intensity and pattern coverage. I believe some of the latest LED technology may be approaching the HIDs in a side-by-side comparison.

If so then I might chose the LEDs over the HIDs for any future vehicles.


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PostSubject: Re: H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600   H7 Globes for the Silverwing 600 I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 11, 2012 6:59 pm

Hi Honda_Silver,

This is better than exceptional! Thank you!!! You're right - LED's at 3600 lumens that's highly competitive and even rivals HID bulbs because they are instant-on.

Thanks again!
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