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PostSubject: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 3:03 pm

So i was riding last night, using the high beams quit a bit. I stopped at the store on the way home, and it kinda stuttered before it started. Didnt think anything about it at the time. Today, cranked once, and dead. tested. 20 % charge? didn't believe it so off to the parts store, yep, 20% charge
nothing running but the high beams last night.

Any ideas? Ive never had electrical problems on a Honda before, ever!

It has never been a touch the starter and it goes thing, it has always turned 3-4 times before kicking on.
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 5:18 pm

Could be a worn out battery. A while ago I stopped at a Dick's Sporting Goods and was in the store for about 10 minutes. When I returned to the SWing, nothing. Battery dead. No warning. I replaced the it with an O.E.M. battery from Honda. It seems to be a better battery and has lasted quite a bit longer than the off brand one. Most motorcycles run OK even when the battery is dead, but the SWing gets weird when the battery is low. I think it's because the SWing won't charge the battery at idle speeds.
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 5:29 pm

Yea, ive been charging it all day now and it wont go over12.368 volts no matter how i charge it. I run r/c stuff and triton has a charger that will charge anything, anyway you want to. Can someone give me a number for an Odyssey battery that will work/fit the swing? with a few more cca? The batteries plus website is to mangled the way they want you to search.
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 7:33 pm

Tagg wrote:
Can someone give me a number for an Odyssey battery that will work/fit the swing? with a few more cca? The batteries plus website is to mangled the way they want you to search.

I have been researching and watching the Shorai battery ( http://www.shoraipower.com/s-72895-FSC600-SilverWing.aspx ) ... smaller and more cold-cranking-amps (CCA).


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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 8:04 pm

My voltage does not go down when i hook up the battery. Lights come on, i can hear the fuel pump prime. and when i hit the starter my voltage does not drop, and the starter doesn't sound at all. Could it be the starter relay? which one is it?
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 8:10 pm

Hey Tagg,

Almost sounds like the switch needs a good cleaning or check your emergincy red rocker switch next to your throttle.
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 8:15 pm

First thing done! Im an old friend of the cutoff switch demon! Of course before hitting send just now, i had to go back and check, you know, just to be sure!. no fuses blown anywhere. Oh yea, its at 11.48 v, after charging all day and reinstalling it and trying a few times!
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 8:49 pm

Curious and I don't know if it tells us anything, but when you push the started switch, do the lights and other circuits switch off as they do ordinarily. Might indicate there is a bad switch.
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Yea, the lights shut off as usual, im getting a new battery tomorrow, we will see if it fixes it. I suspect it will. Pisser is i only had it for 3 months, i knew i should have asked for a new battery, its from 08, and sat around till i bought the bike!
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 10:29 pm

Any chance the kickstand switch is bad? Maybe try jumping the switch connections.
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 06, 2011 3:51 am

Tagg wrote:
Yea, the lights shut off as usual, im getting a new battery tomorrow, we will see if it fixes it. I suspect it will. Pisser is i only had it for 3 months, i knew i should have asked for a new battery, its from 08, and sat around till i bought the bike!

When I was much younger, I had a Corsica that would burn up an alternator about every 60k miles. If the alternator went south, it would usually take the battery with it. May be a good idea to have your swing's charging system tested. Others have also suggested great things to check too.

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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 06, 2011 7:36 pm

Yea, new battery, new bike!
Im getting 13.99 at 4000RPM. Is that normal?
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Not bad Tagg,

My 08 would get 14.3
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I guess im right there then, brand new batt, fully charged wont take as much initially. Time to ride!
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PostSubject: Re: Refused to turn over this morning   Refused to turn over this morning I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 06, 2011 8:55 pm

I went with the ytz14s, for the extra cca's. And you know, it only costs 10% more to go first class, right?
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