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PostSubject: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 7:15 am

I want to buy a tool for the vario removal.
Can anyone tell me the diameter of the holes for the tool and how far away the both holes from each other?
I wanna buy this tool but i have to check the distance and diameter first
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PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 9:06 am

Do not think distance is the problem with the tool you highlighted as it looks to be hinged in the centre, but I do believe that the holes that the tools insert into are threaded, (6mm I think!),

So therefore the end pins need to be threaded also. Therein lies the problem!

Or you could manufacture this little baby!

http://www.leroybeal.net/motorcycles/silverwing/articles/drivepulleytool/drivepulleytool.html

Cheap but effective.
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PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 9:47 am

Waspie wrote:
but I do believe that the holes that the tools insert into are threaded

I have the similar Honda tool and the inserts are not threaded. The inserts are relatively short, which makes it harder for one person to hold both pins flat with sufficient pressure AND loosen/tighten the variator nut with one person. Another pair of hands makes it easier.

Honda has another tool which is just a plate of metal with a large hole and two smaller holes with threads to screw a bolt through and bolt onto the outside casing holes ... Much shorter than Leroy's tool and portable.
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PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 10:11 am

honda_silver wrote:
Waspie wrote:
but I do believe that the holes that the tools insert into are threaded

I have the similar Honda tool and the inserts are not threaded. The inserts are relatively short, which makes it harder for one person to hold both pins flat with sufficient pressure AND loosen/tighten the variator nut with one person. Another pair of hands makes it easier.

Thanks for that, I now know that the pins are not threaded that makes life a little easier!! (The pins are no longer critical to the manufacture).

I envisage a home made tool, braced against the ground. Feet planted either side of the main bolt. ratchet extension between feet and giving it some serious force to undue the bolt holding the variator.

With luck the same procedure in reverse to refit!!!
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PostSubject: Vario removing   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 10:15 am

Here is a link to a DIY Variator holding tool. Its adjustible so it will fit many applications. The holes in the variator are not threaded in the Silverwing (either the 400 or 600 models), but the holder bolts used for those locations should extend ~15 mm into the variator holes. The plan says to use M6 x 30 mm long for these bolts. The variator holes are about 6 mm diameter and spaced 100 mm apart. The holding bolt is 17 mm.

The Honda Universal Holder tool has very short pins used to hold the variator. They often slip and cause the variator hole flanges to break. The longer bolts of this DIY tool fit deeper and are much more secure, allowing removal of the variator without needing a 3rd hand

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YBwnTR7e6PoE9nH-tiLKc9gn-WZuL3AtWb_z_NrEslWjD23jbSTyjAbDDnKb-AtGVGJYeSuiACvw_QNx2s4lkjxoWnphb7DHdZII/Variator%20Pulley%20Tool.pdf

Here is a YouTube video showing how to remove the variator without using a Special Tool. The video, while not in English or German, is very self explanatory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_4xK1QCeM&NR=1

Hope this helps

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PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 10:50 am

Thx for the infos

I think the "toolless Version" is good but if you use a torquewrench it is not aplicable (if you want to do it correct because the wood of the hammer will make it inaccurate).
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PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 2:38 pm

I have always enjoyed the way Bruce writes.
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PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 07, 2011 5:15 pm

jdeereanton wrote:
I have always enjoyed the way Bruce writes.

Especially the beginning and ending of this particular bit. alien beamed up

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PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Vario tool I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 15, 2011 8:08 am

I bought the tool and 1 hour ago i installed a new belt and the J.Costa Evo II
It works without any problems and it is possible to do the Job alone with this tool.
My Crash bars are installed on the footpeg with a longer screw. I used this screw to block the tool and with this trick it was easy to use the tool without helping hands
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