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PostSubject: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 01, 2009 3:13 pm

hi all i wish to sit back a bit from the bars can the fanny stop be moved in amy way please ( i hope its the right word as i am english ) this is really a great fourm respect adam
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 01, 2009 3:24 pm

Adam,

If you open the seat then then look up at the bottom of the seat, you will see 2 Hex Nut screws. You just need to remove these screws and then push the seat as far back as you can. I ride with mine all the way back and then just yesterday I adjusted my handlebars to be a bit closer to me. I will be posting pics on how I did this. It is very simple to do too. But just open your seat and look up at the bottom to locate the 2 Hex Nuts. I'm glad you enjoy the site.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 01, 2009 5:44 pm

Adam,

Allso be shure to use a "good" properly fitting allen wrench. The screws are very tight if they have never been removed before. The heads of the screws can strip out real easley. I know because I did it. When that happened to me, I had to grind a slot in the head, and use a large flat blade screwdriver to get it out.

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PostSubject: Removing Screws.   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 01, 2009 11:11 pm

Adam, did your Swing have the tool kit? My kit came with a few items like the spark plug socket wrench,(I think it has a screw driver kit) and a hex head allen wrench that fits the screws Jeff described to you. They are very soft, so be careful to have wrench in securely before turning. Bob is not the only one to strip the heads off screws. When you reinstall them, just snug em.
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Adam, when I striped mine, I bought a new scooter. (Just Kidding)
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 05, 2009 2:30 pm

scooterbob wrote:
Adam,

Allso be shure to use a "good" properly fitting allen wrench. The screws are very tight if they have never been removed before. The heads of the screws can strip out real easley. I know because I did it. When that happened to me, I had to grind a slot in the head, and use a large flat blade screwdriver to get it out.

Have a great day
bob

I have tried to release these screws on my new Silverwing purchased in January - impossible to move and even Dealer failed - now being booked in for return to Dealer for removal under warranty and also fitting of Givi screen - seems someone in factory has more arm muscle than me when fitting seat backrest ?????

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PostSubject: not happy   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 14, 2009 12:29 pm

hi all the allen screws to move the seat are so tight that even god would have problems moving them anyone got any ideas please?

second is there some thing that is sold in the us that i can use as a third break light there is nothing here in the uk anyone find me a job as a kosher butcher i move tonight thats for sure I WAS BORN IN THE WRONG COUNTRY should of been the u s a
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 14, 2009 12:41 pm

Adam,

Welcome to the site, I don't think I had sent you a proper welcome before now.

1. Make certain as ScooterBob wrote - use the correct size hex key (allen wrench).

2. You may have to slide a short length of pipe (the indide diameter should just fit) over the (handle) end of the hex key to provide some additional leverage.

3. Good luck.

As to a high mount or 3rd brake light, this link will give you a few options - http://www.customdynamics.com/knight_rider_led_light_bar.htm
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 18, 2009 4:38 pm

adammetselaar wrote:
hi all the allen screws to move the seat are so tight that even god would have problems moving them anyone got any ideas please?

second is there some thing that is sold in the us that i can use as a third break light there is nothing here in the uk anyone find me a job as a kosher butcher i move tonight thats for sure I WAS BORN IN THE WRONG COUNTRY should of been the u s a
bloody shame monkey monkey monkey monkey monkey

adammetselaar

Seat allen screws removed and re installed by dealer this morning (UK) - used torx t bar type tool with added pipe for leverage.

Regarding third brake light - I think Givi have a kit for their rear top box but you need to check their Uk web site/local stockist

Lastly, Givi screen fitted and Silverwing has been transformed - no wind battering and peace and quiet prevails behind it - highly recommended - I am 6' in height and it is perfect - best £100 spent

Hope this helps

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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 1:28 am

We took the back rest completely off my '03 and then had the seat rebuilt without reinstalling the backrest. It gave me more leg room. Diane
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 12, 2009 7:52 pm

Diane, Who did your seat rebuild. I have a extra seat that I want re-done.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be removed   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 28, 2009 11:03 pm

I took the driver's back rest completely off. I am 6'2" and it gives me way more leg room. I now feel cramped when I ride with it back on. I have not done anything to modify the seat so far. The plastic brackets that hold the back rest don't look so great but I don't feel or notice them when I ride.

I wondered about the Corbin seat. How does the position of it's molded in back rest (not the optional add-on one) compare to the stock seat. Is it in a similar position as the stock backrest or does it give the additional room like the stock seat does with the back rest removed?

Spring is in the air here. Ride safe.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 29, 2009 6:27 pm

RobinC wrote:
I took the driver's back rest completely off. I am 6'2" and it gives me way more leg room. I now feel cramped when I ride with it back on. I have not done anything to modify the seat so far. The plastic brackets that hold the back rest don't look so great but I don't feel or notice them when I ride.

The Alaskan Sheepskin next larger size (than suggested) covers the plastic brackets nicely.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 30, 2009 4:02 pm

well I finally got my seat undone today. I ended up using the allen wrench long ways and then clamped on a pair of vice grips at the short end, when they came loose my Wife thought I broke them but It just sounded that way, It worked quite well. So I slid the seat back all the way now I have to wait for a nice day to give it a try.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSat May 30, 2009 6:50 am

RobinC wrote:
I took the driver's back rest completely off. I am 6'2" and it gives me way more leg room. I now feel cramped when I ride with it back on. I have not done anything to modify the seat so far. The plastic brackets that hold the back rest don't look so great but I don't feel or notice them when I ride.

I wondered about the Corbin seat. How does the position of it's molded in back rest (not the optional add-on one) compare to the stock seat. Is it in a similar position as the stock backrest or does it give the additional room like the stock seat does with the back rest removed?

Spring is in the air here. Ride safe.

Robin, how did you remove the driver's backrest? I feel cramped and I'm thinking that the backrest could be modified(slimmed down)to get another inch or two. I just picked up my Swing yesterday and the backrest seem pretty well attached but I didn't take a real good long look to see if it was removable.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSat May 30, 2009 7:34 am

Good morning Jay... to move or remove the "Butt rest" on your swing. First just raise the seat and you will find two hex headed bolts up into the rest. You remove the bolts, the butt rest will then slide forward or backwards or you can slide it out completely. I remove mine anytime my wife wants to ride with me to make it more comfortable for her. I actually like it myself when she is there. Gives me more room and I can lean into her a little for back support. When riding alone, the back rest I have now gives me the needed support for my back. Do a search for the different topics on this subject for your consideration.
If you do remove the rest, be sure to keep up with the bolts for later use. I lost one of mine the first time. One other thing that has been discussed before.. the bolts may be extra tight the first time. Be sure you have the wrench securely in the head to avoid stripping it.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeSat May 30, 2009 9:54 am

Jay600 wrote:
how did you remove the driver's backrest? I feel cramped and I'm thinking that the backrest could be modified(slimmed down)to get another inch or two.

From the factory the backrest is NOT back all the the way, in fact there are two more positions .

If you remove and put white nail polish/paint and re-install you will then know the maximum position, you will have to push a little harder for the maximum position. Once the "white" hole are lined up re-install the hex screws.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 02, 2009 2:36 am

Opalsboy, I did figure out how to remove the backrest. Thanks for your help.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 02, 2009 10:23 am

Jay600 wrote:
I did figure out how to remove the backrest.

So are you more comfortable with the backrest all the way back or removed?

I am 5'11" with 32 inseam, I prefer the backrest removed.
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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 02, 2009 12:04 pm

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Jay600 wrote:
I did figure out how to remove the backrest.

So are you more comfortable with the backrest all the way back or removed?

I am 5'11" with 32 inseam, I prefer the backrest removed.

I prefer it removed. I just feel too close to the bars and my legs are cramped otherwise. I may remove the plastic mounting gizmos as well.
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PostSubject: DRIVER BACK REST REMOVED   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 02, 2011 4:13 pm

honda_silver wrote:
Jay600 wrote:
I did figure out how to remove the backrest.

So are you more comfortable with the backrest all the way back or removed?

I am 5'11" with 32 inseam, I prefer the backrest removed.

Hi, 100% agreed. Because of being further away from the steering, I am now in FULL CONTROL.

Please advise how you "covered" the plastic back rest housings? maybe some photos if possible?

Regards

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PostSubject: Re: can the back rest be moved   can the back rest be moved I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 02, 2011 11:24 pm

After reading this thread and mulling over some of the trials and tribulations that some have had with taking off the butt rest, I decided to give it a shot myself on my '05 that I've owned for 3+ years. Had been wanting to convert to a raised backrest for quite some time even though the conventional position was satisfactory enough for most rides.

However, the thought of fighting those hex screws and maybe stripping them always deterred me. Anyway, I located an allen wrench, put it in the screw, gave a bit of twist, and 'voila', they came out slick as a whistle! I was surprised and very happy all at once. So now when I get back off vacation I can get busy with the metal stock I just bought and get that project done.

One other item of note concerning tight assemblies was the oil drain plug when I went to do my first oil change on the SWing (back in ought-eight). Reading about some of those horrors made me sure to go purchase the proper size, heavy duty, socket, and be ready for some muscling on the wrench. Well, 'lo-and-behold, the plug broke loose with just a good firm grip on the ratchet.

I consider myself pretty lucky to have been thru these two events and not to have encountered the difficulties that many have had. Kinda' looks like maybe the original owner may have already had these items out and torqued them properly when reinstalling. Anyway... hope my luck holds.

That's enough jibberish for now... it's 10:20 pm on a Wednesday nite and my thermometer is still reading 90 degrees F. Had to have an outlet somewhere. Y'all have a "cool" tomorrow.
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