Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum


 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Latest topics
» What were they thinking?
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby Marvincon Today at 4:49 am

» Will my 2002 Silverwing 600 fit in the bed of my F150 Ford with Tailgat up or down?
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby zrx212 Yesterday at 8:05 pm

» Earth cable stress
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby zrx212 Yesterday at 7:29 pm

» Happy St. Patricks Day!
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby BrianInVA Yesterday at 5:11 pm

» Hello from Ontario, Canada
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby PerryH Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:05 pm

» LED Headlights
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby GHM-PM Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:52 am

» Cylinder Head Replacement
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby 95konig Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:50 pm

» Cooling fan still running
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby Terry Smith Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:18 pm

» March 2024 Forum Picture
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby Dale N. Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:38 pm

» Hyperpro Fork Springs
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeby Mech 1 twa Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:31 pm

Navigation
 Portal
 Index
 Memberlist
 Profile
 FAQ
 Search
free forum
 

 

 darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)

Go down 
+3
john grinsel
GHM-PM
Kunamika Hopper
7 posters
AuthorMessage
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 8:00 am

Hello all!

I've been riding with an achilles DS for a year or so, but recently had to go back to a Pirelli while I awaited a replacement.

With the Pirelli, I had no problems with going speeds up to 100, however, now that I'm back on the dark side, I get a bit of handlebar wobble on deceleration after I've crossed 80 mph.

I had previously had a similar problem, but it turned out my rear wheel nut had come loose. That is not the current cause, as I have retorqued the nut.

currently running at 35 psi on the rear and 25 on the front.

Does anyone have any ideas? I've searched the forum, but only found info on the swing's low speed wobble (which seems part in parcel for the bike).
Back to top Go down
GHM-PM
Site Admin
GHM-PM


Number of posts : 2537
Age : 71
Location : Bullhead City, AZ
Points : 7163
Registration date : 2012-05-17

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 8:14 am

For the weight of the bike I would think that 25 psi is too little for the front. I run 30 front and 36 rear but that is with motorcycle tires. Perhaps someone on here will chime in with info on DS tires. Good luck.
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 8:49 am

GHM-PM wrote:
For the weight of the bike I would think that 25 psi is too little for the front.  I run 30 front and 36 rear but that is with motorcycle tires. Perhaps someone on here will chime in with info on DS tires. Good luck.

Thanks for the reply Glenn! I was thinking it might be too low, but didn't have a problem with it when riding both MC tires. I'll take it up to 30 and see if it fixes it, though, I'm curious why it would make a difference.
Back to top Go down
john grinsel
Curmudgeon
john grinsel


Number of posts : 3290
Age : 84
Points : 9188
Registration date : 2009-08-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 9:10 am

How do you go around corners?
Back to top Go down
Erdoc48
Touring Scooter Rider
Touring Scooter Rider



Number of posts : 316
Age : 59
Location : Myrtle Beach, SC
Points : 984
Registration date : 2022-05-31

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 9:54 am

Totally unrelated topic…what saddlebags are you using on your SWing and do you have to use mounts under the bags or just an over the rear seat Velcro attachment? Those look good in your avatar pic.
Back to top Go down
DickO
Founding Member
DickO


Number of posts : 1017
Age : 79
Location : Atchison, KS
Points : 6713
Registration date : 2008-12-23

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 1:58 pm

Hi Kuna... I run standard specified psi on my front tire and 40 on my rear darkside... never had any problems...
Back to top Go down
Loosemarbles
Site Admin
Loosemarbles


Number of posts : 1550
Age : 62
Location : South East England
Points : 4450
Registration date : 2016-10-01

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 2:20 pm


I can't confess to having any visits to the Dark Side. Although the recommended psi for the front is 29 I can't imagine 5 psi causing a wobble on throttling off.

Could it be a question of balance?...i.e. the extra load on the front wheel when decelerating from 80mph+
Back to top Go down
john grinsel
Curmudgeon
john grinsel


Number of posts : 3290
Age : 84
Points : 9188
Registration date : 2009-08-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 4:26 pm

De-cel steering wobbles can/do happen on two wheelers at times.
Back to top Go down
Meldrew
Visiting Curmudgeon
Meldrew


Number of posts : 4169
Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK
Points : 9149
Registration date : 2010-11-16

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 4:39 pm

Kunamika Hoppe wrote:

With the Pirelli, I had no problems with going speeds up to 100, however, now that I'm back on the dark side, I get a bit of handlebar wobble on deceleration after I've crossed 80 mph.







I'm taking this 100 mph nonsense with a very large pinch of salt.
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 6:23 pm

Erdoc48 wrote:
Totally unrelated topic…what saddlebags are you using on your SWing and do you have to use mounts under the bags or just an over the rear seat Velcro attachment? Those look good in your avatar pic.

I'm not sure what model they are, but they're giving universal bags. No mounts, just the velcro straps.
Thanks! I'm a big fan, so long as I don't have to leave them on the bike unattended.
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 6:25 pm

[/quote]
I'm taking this 100 mph nonsense with a very large pinch of salt.[/quote]

I don't know how optimistic my speedo is, but a couple freeways here get up to 75 mph, and people drive 90-100 on them. my speedo says 100, and I keep up with everyone else, but idk
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 6:27 pm

DickO wrote:
Hi Kuna... I run standard specified psi on my front tire and 40 on my rear darkside...  never had any problems...

I'm still not sure what the physics are, but I pushed it up to 30 before going to work, and the issue seems to be resolved.
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 6:29 pm

Loosemarbles wrote:

I can't confess to having any visits to the Dark Side. Although the recommended psi for the front is 29 I can't imagine 5 psi causing a wobble on throttling off.

Could it be a question of balance?...i.e. the extra load on the front wheel when decelerating from 80mph+

I didn't think 5psi would make a huge difference at that range, but it seems to have been the issue.
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 6:31 pm

john grinsel wrote:
How do you go around corners?

cornering is smooth
Back to top Go down
john grinsel
Curmudgeon
john grinsel


Number of posts : 3290
Age : 84
Points : 9188
Registration date : 2009-08-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 7:26 pm

did you know that car tire beads and motorcycle beads are different?
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeFri May 19, 2023 8:03 pm

john grinsel wrote:
did you know that car tire beads and motorcycle beads are different?

I did!

I don't understand the physics of psi and balance though(obviously).

Back to top Go down
john grinsel
Curmudgeon
john grinsel


Number of posts : 3290
Age : 84
Points : 9188
Registration date : 2009-08-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeSat May 20, 2023 12:27 pm

were you riding when bikes came with steering dampers? Wheel balance---my experience most shops do not/can not balance small scooter wheels. "Ride On" works well as balancing aide---not cheap but wors well in scooter wheels/tires.
Back to top Go down
Kunamika Hopper
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider
Kunamika Hopper


Number of posts : 42
Location : texas
Points : 1336
Registration date : 2020-09-18

darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitimeSat May 20, 2023 7:01 pm

john grinsel wrote:
were you riding when bikes came with steering dampers?    Wheel balance---my experience most shops do not/can not balance small scooter wheels.    "Ride On" works well as balancing aide---not cheap but wors well in scooter wheels/tires.

I was not. I've only been riding for about 7 years now, and only 3 of those are on the swing. I'll check out "ride on". Thank for the suggestion John!
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) Empty
PostSubject: Re: darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)   darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph) I_icon_minitime

Back to top Go down
 
darkside tire, front wheel wobble at high speed (80+mph)
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Front wheel wobble
» Front Wheel Wobble and Growl
» Double Darkside
» Wheel wobble!
» 175 darkside tire

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum :: Honda Silver Wing :: Accessories & Modifications :: Darkside Car Tire-
Jump to: