Beef up exhaust sound for Silver Wing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwaXjtRybhI

No man would ever be allowed to ride on the back of any of my scoot's ,,,,Not even holding a gas can . But , if you're going to be playing a trombone ,, well then

I just had a massive belly laugh!!!!!

The easiest way to beef up the sound is done automatic.
Every time you remove and reinstall the exhaust (if you need a new rear tire) the carbon composite seal ring is a bit more damaged, also the exhaust pipe will start to corrode over the years and adding to damaging the seal even more.
The more the seal ring gets worn, the louder you exhaust gets, since some of the gasses escape through the damaged ring - with it noise also.
You will notice that more as the rpm passes 5000, especially up the mountains.

I've always found it strange that some bike and scooter owners like noisy exhausts. The wind noise generated inside your helmet is already damaging your hearing unless you have a decent helmet and well fitting ear plugs.

So what's the point of adding more noise and decibels. If your helmet and earplugs are working you won't be hearing it that much anyway. The 'loud pipes saves lives' argument is nonsense, and loud exhausts just piss people off generally.

There was a load of Trad scooters turned up at Zeebrugge Ferry Terminal while I was there a few months ago, and some of them were making an appalling noise with aftermarket cans and exhausts, especially the two-strokes.

If they'd been the 'L' plated teenage cretins that plague every UK town and city playing throttle jockeys at traffic lights, I might have put it down to ignorance. But most of these Trad riders were middle aged and older.

The cacophony started again when we disembarked back at Hull the next morning and it took forever to get through UK Border and Immigration, even the official checking my passport was fed up with the racket and fumes from these Quadrophenia throw backs.

Then there's the loud pipe morons on sports bikes who you can hear going up through the gears when you're at home and they're probably half a mile away. The open pipe HD bad ass crowd and all the others. You're drawn to them by the totally unnecessary and annoying exhaust noise they're making.

I can’t be they only one that hears it and thinks 'wanker'!  

Gee Wiz dudes.  just laugh!    

nah, South Park has just the right episode for that


The F Word Season 13 | Episode 12
you will also learn about Bikecurious
...and you will see how to mount little American flags on a seat.

enjoy

A must see South Park episode if you are not a Harley fan...    It's funny in so many waaays.
All in humor.

I am with Meldrew on this one... Noisy bikes just draw attention to yourself and piss off people. In fact in California the Highway Patrol can and will stop you and give you a fix-it ticket... Ask me how I know this LOL

I ride with loads of Harley riders amd they seem especially prone to this malady. So much so that I know some that spend nearly 30K USD for a H-D and then take off stock mufflers and put on straight pipes! It certainly isn't done for power as I never met a Harley that I could not dust on my Goldwing and still idle it in church, haha.

"I ride with loads of Harley riders amd they seem especially prone to this malady."

Every weekend, there is a steady parade of upscale guys who ride on A1A along the ocean on enormous, shiny Harleys with do-tags and leather vests to show what bad boys they are when they're away from their big suburban homes. I call them "look at me" bikes. There's no serious riding going on (the speed limit on A1A is 35 mph). If I were a cop, I would ticket them all. The charge? "Being way too full of yourself."

Good One SEP.  The rumble mouths really do the trick

For the serious part of the discussion, I don't care for loud exhaust either gang.  It is extremely annoying.  

What I can't fathom is how anyone would want to go deaf so quickly.  Must happen almost overnight with the ping pong action rumbles up inside the "brainpan" helmet wearers.  Probably why so many Harley riders don't wear helmets . . .

I am rather enjoying the jokes here.  What would we have to say if Harley owners didn't modify their bikes.  

Back when I was driving truck it was just before dawn and barely starting to get light. I was listening to the radio minding my own business when all of a sudden this Harley came flying past me. It was so loud it made me jump. I could still hear him over a mile up the road when he'd accelerate even with the rest of the traffic. I have a bit of hearing loss from my days on the ship in the Navy but the big guns weren't even that loud and continuous.

Gee, Dale, that you didn’t hit him or run him off the road proves his point that loud pipes do save lives.

I tried but my semi wasn't fast enough to catch up to him.

what would happen if Harley brought out an e-bike?
number 1 add on: audio "exhaust sound" sound system with extra strong sub woofer?

Sepp wrote:

what would happen if Harley brought out an e-bike?
number 1 add on: audio "exhaust sound" sound system with extra strong sub woofer?

Haha great idea Sepp! Not expecting H-D to EVER come out with a quiet e-bike however.

GHM-PM wrote:

Sepp wrote:

what would happen if Harley brought out an e-bike?
number 1 add on: audio "exhaust sound" sound system with extra strong sub woofer?

Haha great idea Sepp! Not expecting H-D to EVER come out with a quiet e-bike however.

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Sepp wrote:

what would happen if Harley brought out an e-bike?
number 1 add on: audio "exhaust sound" sound system with extra strong sub woofer?

  I saw the Livewire at the Progressive motorcycle show in Dallas last weekend. It sounded like a giant sewing machine.

I don't have an extension cord long enough to charge it.  

just wear a solar panel, or better yet clothes that have solar charging capability, who knows what they will come up with. Oh was that a 2 or 4 cyl. sewing machine

Livewire sounds like a downed power pole. At 30K they will be selling a lot of those. Why? I guess just because they can. I don't see a market for it but what do I know.

It's pretty fast 0-60 but range is the question. Local taverns will have to install some fast chargers.

Loud pipes definately helps you get noticed, not a fan of loud pipes for the sake of it but I have heard the rumble of a twin while driving and then saw the bike in my mirrors.

Each to their own but we all risk everything when we take to the roads on two wheels and need every bit of safety equipment to stay alive. I have a GSXR titanium end can that makes a lovely rumble on the swing and wont be changing it anytime soon.

The time when bikes were a pain has changed now to w*nkers in cars young and old wheel spining , loud exhasts who razz around in built up areas not giving two f***s about the damage they can do moving two tons of steel in a cinfined space when they lose control or misjudge things. Yup wank*rs indeed !

Loud pipes may help you get noticed, but it's not in a positive way. It's basically 'Look at me, I have this  bike/car and I've junked the stock exhaust and put this put this noisy one on, and being honest I only fitted it to compensate for having a tiny todger'.

My main gripe with loud exhausts is being woken up at stupid'o'clock on a Sunday morning by the early birds. I confess, on a nice morning it's a great time for a ride. It starts with the Harleys which have to stop to give way at the junction on the main road (at idle) the noise from which thumps through my pillow.

When he's gone and I'm about to get back to my slumber, the Moto3 replica comes screaming through the village at full chat and I can hear the screaming long after he's gone, I actually started counting the gear changes as he fades away. This goes on for hours.

Apart from all that, simply changing an exhaust without re-tuning certain parts of the engine can lead to internal damage, engine aspiration is a precise science. So there !

Meldrew wrote:

Loud pipes may help you get noticed, but it's not in a positive way. It's basically 'Look at me, I have this  bike/car and I've junked the stock exhaust and put this put this noisy one on, and being honest I only fitted it to compensate for having a tiny todger'.

Couldn't agree more, and I think if I wanted something that sounded like a tractor, I'd buy a tractor!

Loud pipes really don't save lives.   Common sense does. Dont ride in a cars blind spot, position yourself so you can be seen.  Not always easy with traffic but don't tailgate try to keep a safe space.

I tried some loud mufflers on 1999 Honda Magna 750 V4 didn't like them for long.   Sold them after a few months did nothing for speed or fuel mileage.  It was my first faster bike and rode it for three years and 21k  water pump started leaking. Went to dealer to buy some parts and left with a 2003 Yamaha FZ-1 1000CC 4  now that was fast.  I put 9k on that bike in four months a good summer.  

Common sense and seat time.    Do we ever grow up? NAHHH.

One of the things I liked about the Goldwings I've owned was the lack of noise at highway speed. Hardly any engine sound at 70mph, just the noise of the wind. No vibration either. On my last GW if I wanted noise I could hit my two airhorns. They were LOUD. Interesting hooking up the airhorns in parallel with the original electric horns. If you just gave the horn button a short 'toot' there was only the weak electric horn. Hold the button down a few more seconds and the sound was the air horns sounding like a semi truck. It worked because the air horns had a slight one second lag building up air pressure before they sounded. No ready to go compressed air tank like those on a truck. Made polite 'toots' or a full throated blast, whatever the occasion required.

The main admirer of a loud exhaust is the old lady walking her dog that you've just passed.

When I was a kid I thought loud exhaust was cool. Now that I'm 73 and have hearing loss from my Navy days I prefer a quieter exhaust. A quieter exhaust also makes it easier to hear my 50s and 60s sounds coming from my speakers on my top box.

Dale N. wrote:

When I was a kid I thought loud exhaust was cool. Now that I'm 73 and have hearing loss from my Navy days I prefer a quieter exhaust. A quieter exhaust also makes it easier to hear my 50s and 60s sounds coming from my speakers on my top box.

Oh Dale that sounds SO familiar but no radio, I-Pad sounds nor noise on mine. I no longer wear ear buds to hear tunes when mowing the grass, those were replaced by ear plugs, the same when I ride. I'm doing my best to preserve what hearing I have.

oldwingguy wrote:

Dale N. wrote:

When I was a kid I thought loud exhaust was cool. Now that I'm 73 and have hearing loss from my Navy days I prefer a quieter exhaust. A quieter exhaust also makes it easier to hear my 50s and 60s sounds coming from my speakers on my top box.

Oh Dale that sounds SO familiar but no radio, I-Pad sounds nor noise on mine. I no longer wear ear buds to hear tunes when mowing the grass, those were replaced by ear plugs, the same when I ride. I'm doing my best to preserve what hearing I have.  

I know what you mean. The hearing aids I wear cut down on the wind and exhaust noise a lot. I always wear a helmet when riding which helps also. I don't have my tunes up so loud that it's blaring and ticking people off but I can hear them.

Dale N. wrote:

oldwingguy wrote:

Dale N. wrote:

When I was a kid I thought loud exhaust was cool. Now that I'm 73 and have hearing loss from my Navy days I prefer a quieter exhaust. A quieter exhaust also makes it easier to hear my 50s and 60s sounds coming from my speakers on my top box.

Oh Dale that sounds SO familiar but no radio, I-Pad sounds nor noise on mine. I no longer wear ear buds to hear tunes when mowing the grass, those were replaced by ear plugs, the same when I ride. I'm doing my best to preserve what hearing I have.  

I know what you mean. The hearing aids I wear cut down on the wind and exhaust noise a lot. I always wear a helmet when riding which helps also. I don't have my tunes up so loud that it's blaring and ticking people off but I can hear them.

I did wear them but quit after I lost one taking my helmet off It depends on the range ones loss is in, I do fine without them and with the plugs in. This new pair can be " plugs " but they will go in a case when I ride to much $$$$$$$$$$$$ invested to lose even one. No matter what method one uses it's got to be the one that works for them.