should I ?

Why?

Guess it depends on whether this outweighs the risk of coming down if you forget the stand. Personally I wouldn't.

IDisabling (for occasional personal convenience) any device or mechanism that the manufacturer placed on the bike as a "safety device" is probably not a prudent move.

When I first bought the bike I had a stock seat and was on my tippy toes stopped at lights to balance the bike. I disabled the sidestand cutoff and added about 3/4 inch to the thickness of the foot of the stand.

Then when I would get to a stopligjht, I would drop the side stand and the
bike would lean little enought that I could put a little weight on the side stand and keep my feet on the Swing.

When the light changeed I'd simply shift my weight to the right a little so there was no pressure on the side stand, kick it up, and go.

In the beginning, I forgot a couple times but it never was enough to affect my balance, and I built up a habit quickly.

Dan

I find the immobilizer to be an irritant. I often would like to leave the motor running for a few seconds while I drop a movie in the slot, or whatever.

It'll be a simple kill switch. You can short the wire ends together and that should do it.

A lot of modern motorcycles have a starter interrupt switch on the side stand. If you've ever ridden off with the side stand down you may know why. I know of one fatal accident where the rider left a parking place, turned right and accelerated down the road then made a left turn which caused the sidestand to high side him into a guard rail. You might think the side stand would simply fold but often they lift the rear wheel off the ground and cause the bike to go down. The side stand safety switch is a good idea. One word of caution, if you sold a bike with that switch disabled you could be facing a serious law suit of the new owner was injured in a side stand accident.

I went ahead and disabled mine yesterday. After riding old Harley's most of my life this is more to my liking.

I like it alot better this way.

DennisB

It seems to me that the immobilizer switch could just as easily power up a warning light.

That is a great idea and would be easy to do. When the stand is down is opens the switch and closes the circuit when up.

Working on the principle that Insurance Companies in the UK look for any excuse not to pay out in the event of an accident, I'd be extremely cautious about making such a modification, at least without informing them.
There have been cases where vehicle owners have 'invalidated' their insurance by doing such things as fitting after-market wheels (to cars), for example, without telling the company!

It sounds like your insurance company sucks. I was just wondering....does your insurance company require you to call them 24 hours before you take your scooter out for a ride so they can OK the ride. Just kidding.

Here in the US, the insurance companies work for us and if they get to fussy, we just let them go (fire them) and find another.

What is the best way to diable it so that if you want to enable later it would be and easy fix.

It sounds like your insurance company sucks

Dennis, unfortunately it's all-too-often the case; they seem only interested in grabbing the premiums and hanging on to them, come what may.

Dennis... you feeling OK? Sounds like you may be a little edgy after the weekend. I know I am. You be careful with the kick stand thing. I know what the folks are saying. IT CAN be dangerous. Doesn't matter if the insurance pays or not if your brains are scattered all over the Tulsa freeway. I haven't done any deep scientific study or anything, but it seems like the stand on the Swing is lower than the stand was on the only other bike I ever owned back in the late 60s. At my age, I can appreciate the safety feature. I also can say that I would like to start the scoot up sometimes and let it idle while on the kick stand. All I am saying is just be careful. I would sure miss you... but if something happens ... I want your shop.
Gary

Gary,

Beleave it or not I did have a 1984 Yamaha Verago that had a kick stand lock out and sold the bike shortly. I'm very used to having the kick stand old style. But some of you new riders need to maintain that lock out for now.

I already used it in traffic, at a stop light. I thought I had ran over someting and needed to check my front tire. So while stopped I put my kick stand down, got off the scooter while it was running and walked to the front to look at my tire. It looked good. I was on my way in a flash and never had to restart the scooter. It works for me.

What's really weird is when the spring on the kick stand brakes while your riding. This happened to me once on my 59 PanHead in 1992.

Great! Just don't forget what I said about the shop!!!!
:thank you:
Gary

I will be disabling my stand switch shortly and as with my last scoot, wiring a a switch on the dash to turn it on and off as it is a real pain when going in and out of gates. I would also like to warm up the engine with the lower winter temperatures at the moment. The primary reason for the switch is to stop people revving the engine and the Swing taking off while no one is on it. If this is a problem just place a bit of 2inch plastic water pipe over the throttle assy and apply the handbrake for safety. Like Dennis, I know when I need something or not.
The one on my bike only cuts the engine if the stand is down and a gear is selected.

Hi All,

I've been getty a load of PM's On how to do this. One thing I need for you NOT to do is cut any wires. Here's a picture of the 1/4" blade type connector to use over the 2 pins (this connects the two pins). Make darn sure it fits tight on the pins and does not come off with a small amount of tugging. Then wrap it electrical tape to keep it safe and prevent contact with any ground points.

Well Dumbo me I cut the wire on the kick stand side about 2 inches from the connector and taped the two wires together and attached it to securely to the frame with a tie. The other end from the kickstand side I tape it up but not the two wires together and secured it to the frame with tie wrap. I think it is really secure and it works. I couldn't fine a connector that fix right either two big or small and to me it would vibrate off and then engine would no run or start. I really didn't want to cut but it looked like to me it would hold better than a connector that didn' fit right. If you think this could hurt something I will order a new connector switch from Honda and put back on. Thanks

That's it....I give up.

Don't give up Dennis... I had a little trouble getting the front panel tabs loose, so, I borrowed my neighbors chain saw and cut a little below where they clip together... did I do wrong? If I did, I will trade in my Beautiful Silverwing for a Tonka truck I saw on the internet yesterday. It has sirens and it makes a noise when I push it...

I will take pictures when I get my new camera... until then, use your imagination.

Gary

Don't give up on account of me. I only did what I thought would work. I am serious about if you think that It will cause trouble I would order the connector and replace it.

This is one of those things (and there is NOT to many on the scooter mod list) that needs to changed back when you (some day) deside sell your scooter. Permently cutting any wiring on the scooters original harness is a BIG NO, NO and should be avoided at all cost. The way I explained it was easy, cheep, and quik to-do and un-do.

Now....If you ever need more information on how to get something done or more information on how to install other accessories just ask Gary (Opalsboy) but don't just start to shotgun through the project.

Taking care, your time, and being armed with a good sence of what needs to be done....These are the best tools and the first tools in any ones toolbox.

I don't know which I like to smell better in the morning... shotgun powder or chainsaw oil... but reading and following the instructions always works for me.

Gary

Glad you didn't give up Dennis ...

Dennis I appreciate the information that you took the time to send to me and apologize to you. I respect you opinion and would like to know that you wouldn't just write me off. I couldn't get a connector to fit and got over zealous and did what I though was acceptable to do. I know that anytime you disable a safety device you have to be careful. I would never sell my Swing with the switch disabled and not tell the potential buyer about it. In fact I am going to call my Honda Dealer an order a new switch and I will replace it way before I try to sell my Swing.

I respect your

If you need the information out of the Honda Service manual, I can scan the pages and post them for you.

DennisB