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PostSubject: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:31 am

backtracking for those who have not seen my posts since joning. I bought a used 2003 SilverWing and it was three weeks before I rode it any distance and when I did I noticed an oil leak as it was sitting on my landlord's cement out front of my place.
I got it into the shop as soon as i could for it's first oil change since I was going to do the oil change but the leak made it a moot point. I needed it fixed.

The good news is it stopped leaking for three weeks and the work they did was on the house. I was not charged even though they did not have to be so nice.
But three weeks after they fixed it, it's back. Far as I know he told me it was the oil drain plug. A very slight leak and from what I could tell after wiping it clean and waiting for the first sign of oil it was coming from the drain plug.

The Mech took his time with it. He said he had to mess with the plug twice and kept it over night to make sure it was not leaking. So now it's back to leaking and I have not so much as touched the oil drain plug or any other thing of any mechanical nature since it was in the shop. By nature of the leak I am guessing it's of the same origin.

More oil on the land lord's cement. FRACK! It's not a lot and will fade out but it's just the point. It's not mine and I don't want to be messing it up like some white trash renter would.

Any ideas on why it's leaking, again? Sad Should I try another shop? Should I order a brand new drain plug?


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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:22 am

I am NOt a mechanic myself but it could possibly be the O ring that
maybe seeping the oil and the oil drain plug as well.
Ghost rider Greg
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:45 am


I agree with Ghost_rider... I'd change the o-ring for sure. It probably has a nick in it. small moped
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:52 am

Hi Mike,

It might be a very micro crack in the drain plug it's self.
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:47 am

Could be the drain plug gasket as others have stated If not keep the Silverwing on the center stand to prevent the Silverwing from leaning.

Wrap paper towels around cardboard (to record where dripping )
- Place on ground with weight to prevent wind from blowing
- Place between oil plug and metal plate below oil plug ... zip-tie in place to prevent movement

After parking, wipe everything down very thoroughly (including the metal catcher below the oil plug). Make sure oil level is full ... just in case amount of oil matters.

After sufficient sitting time check where oil is leaking on the paper towel ... if not present check for oil on the engine and the metal plate below the oil plug.

If dripping on the paper towel ... redo steps and reposition paper towels closer to dripping point to accurately isolate.

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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:11 pm

Echo the above really.

New plug and rubber 'O' ring for sure. Whilst plug is off. Clean around the plug seat and check the threads for any deformities, may have a crossed thread that is allowing oil past.
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:37 pm

Could it be stripped threads?

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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:42 pm

Is it even the drain plug? First you have to locate where it is coming from exactly----engine? oil filter? drain plug? rear end? If drain plug then maybe new flat washer? Older bike heaven knows who has worked on it and how. Change oil filter,too.
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:55 pm

Final drive oil drain plug?
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:32 pm

I thought the mech replaced the O ring but not sure. I will ask.

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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:37 pm

Is the oil coming from the left or right side ?
First leak I worked on was coming from the right side where the stator wire is coming out of the crankcase. There is a rubber thing that needs to be sealed. Because of one single franking screw you have to take the exhaust off. You better have a small head to see what you are doing. I used three adaptive and one of this spinning around the corner socket to get to it. Not a big deal but certainly challenging because of tight places.

My second oil leak came from behind the belt case. It leaked so much it weakened my belt. It looked very confusing. I took out the back tire. Took out the belt and the belt case which inly has 4 screwes and that was it. It just looks scary.
Today I replaced my smocked stator. I will be uploading pictures.
Wipe, wash and see where the oil is coming from. Drive it or put it on the trailer and take it to a car wash to degrease. There is a purple spray bottle at Autozone that decreases really good. It turned purple. Any degrease will work. It looks so much worse than it actually is.
Good luck
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:56 am

I did a whipe down before and was pretty sure it came from the drain plug.

Anyone know where I could get a new hondra drain plug?
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:37 am

SilverwingInIdaho wrote:

Anyone know where I could get a new hondra drain plug?


A Honda dealer? Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:42 am

Hi,

Just a thought...When you do get a new O-ring and drain plug and when you have the old ones out, take you finger and check the O-ring sealing surface (in the engine) to make sure there are no chips or cracks or anything else that might cause a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:39 am

bigbird wrote:
SilverwingInIdaho wrote:

Anyone know where I could get a new hondra drain plug?


A Honda dealer? Rolling Eyes


Laughing Laughing My kinda answer!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:05 pm

So the honda car dealer will have this part? There is no honda moto dealer near me.

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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:18 pm

SilverwingInIdaho wrote:
So the honda car dealer will have this part? There is no honda moto dealer near me.



Wherever there is a Honda Motorsports dealer is where you can buy the oil drain tappet. If there isn't one near you, then you buy it mail order or online.

What do you do if your Silverwing needs mechanical service that you can't do? The same shop that works on your Swing can also order the tappet for you if you don't want to procure it yourself. Just be prepared for a profit markup on his part.
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:59 pm

Try hear.

http://www.cyclepartswarehouse.com/fiche_section_detail.asp

10 CAP, TAPT ADJ HOLE
12361-KK0-000 001 $18.20 $13.14

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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:37 am

SilverwinginIdaho, why don't you take some time, snap a few pictures of your bike, specifically the area of the oil leak, as you know a picture saves a thousand words.

Your not giving our experts much to go on.

Also, to source parts, Google or whatever search engine you prefer is your friend. That's how most of us increase our knowledge of our machine. That and a wee bit of giggery pokery ourselves. The best experience we can gain is that of attempting a few jobs ourselves and from you have posted you are screwed by the lack of Honda dealerships around you so the more you can do your self the cheaper it will be.

There are manuals giving schematics and part numbers on line, invaluable when identifying parts or researching part numbers, (it's in .pdf format.) Again - takes a bit of googling but it is out there. What isn't out there is a maintenance manual, not in English anyway, if you speak German there is one on the interweb somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: OMG another oil leak!!!! %#@z(*~!!f?({#%$*&*sonofa#!$*(%#$):   Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:21 am

Useful links to assist with part numbers found on this site!

1.
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_years/1307-honda-2005-silver-wing-FSC600D/assemblies/15334

2.
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/honda-motorcycle-fsc600d-silver-wing-2005/o/m15666

3.
http://www.hondaoftulsa.com/fiche_select.asp?vcc=Scooters&mfg=Honda&year=0

Re-submitting links as previously posted by JeffR and Dennis. Many thanks for these very useful links guys.
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