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PostSubject: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 7:52 am

I have a stock 05 SW which is only about a month old. I do not have much time on it yet. I would like hear from some experiences guys on what order to do mods. There are many threads with great mods but where to start, are they needed for my riding style, etc. I know this is a little subjective but maybe we can get a list for us new guys. Thanks in advance. David
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 8:17 am

Clearview or Givi Windscreen,*, back rest or raised butt stop and Dr Pulley variator sliders or light weight variator rollers --usually done when you change the belt.

A whole lot of folks add a Givi or other brand Top Box before doing anything else. And if you expect to do some night riding and want to add extra lighting you might want to consider our own DennisB's driving lamp bracket as well as his Perfect Connector wire harness connectors (so you won't have to mutilate your wiring).

Then if you really want to go to extremes you can replace the short-lived stock rear tire with a Sumitomo car tire and get 40,000 miles wear from that. You could also replace the stock clutch with a Dr Pulley High Thrust clutch.

*<Edit> Oops! How could I have forgotten? Shocked ...HyperPro springs --but first change the windscreen

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 8:38 am

A good start would be to bin the stock windshield and fit the Givi Airflow, you'll enjoy riding your SW so much more, then a Givi rack and E52/E55 topcase to increase the storage capacity. Maybe later, lower leg wind deflectors, heated grips' and a Dennis B sat nav mount. That's what I have on my SW and it covers all my needs.

I'm not sure about all this J Costa, Dr Pulley, Hyperpro, Power Commander stuff, I've never fitted it to any maxi scooter and have never felt the need to, US tastes may be different of course.

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 8:47 am

Hyperpro front spring replacement is also very high on the to do list for most modders. Huge improvent in how the bike handles the road.
Replacing the trunk light with the fixture that has the integrated switch is also an easy and cheap mod.

I'd recommend that rather than putting mods in order, put your priorities in order.

In particular put the following in the order that is most valuable to you:

Comfort (Backrest/buttstop and screen)
Performance/Handling (Variator, exhaust, power commander, hyperpro,)
Utility (Top box, lighting in the trunk, power outlet in left glove box)
Safety (Lighting front and rear, mirror extenders)
Long Trips (Better tires, GPS, Cruise control)

These are just examples. Once you've got your priorities straight, you'll know exactly where to spend your money.

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 8:56 am

dspevack wrote:
Hyperpro front spring replacement is also very high on the to do list for most modders. Huge improvent in how the bike handles the road.
Replacing the trunk light with the fixture that has the integrated switch is also an easy and cheap mod.

I'd recommend that rather than putting mods in order, put your priorities in order.

In particular put the following in the order that is most valuable to you:

Comfort (Backrest/buttstop and screen)
Performance/Handling (Variator, exhaust, power commander, hyperpro,)
Utility (Top box, lighting in the trunk, power outlet in left glove box)
Safety (Lighting front and rear, mirror extenders)
Long Trips (Better tires, GPS, Cruise control)

These are just examples. Once you've got your priorities straight, you'll know exactly where to spend your money.

Dan




I would agree with the order you listed. I will mostly use it for daily commuting and running errands. Although, long trips are not expected, comfort is by far the number one priority. I have been reading the Corbin v. Russell v. Airhawk solutions. I just started riding with my feet forward instead of flat which has made a huge difference. It looks like the unanimous winner for first mod is the windscreen. Shocks actually are very popular but my question is do they make a difference in the ride comfort. I read a lot about performance but my sport bike days are behind me. Do they soften the bump?
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 10:34 am

They definitely soften the bump.
Very good with potholes.
Reduces nose dive considerably.

Dan

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 10:59 am

Dan, What a great list of "to do" improvements to the Swing! Without realizing it, I had done all but 4 of your items....billc.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 11:05 am

Bill,

I'm sure you did those that were important to you.....
Umm....which four do you have left?


As I'm sure you know, it is my "short list" afro

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 11:53 am

My list, in order of benefit to me, is:

1) J. Costa variator (gets rid of all drive train vibrations and adds considerable acceleration)
2) Givi AirFlow windscreen (eliminates all sorts of high speed buffeting and noise)
3) HyperPro springs (no more brake dive, more secure cornering)
4) Mirror extensions (for safety, can't be beat)
5) Admore mini light bar and top box LED lighting (for safety, can't be beat)
6) Kisan headlight modulator (for safety, can't be beat)
7) Givi V46 top box (more than doubles your storage capacity)
8 ) Grip Puppies (makes the hand/grip interaction so much nicer)
9) DC powerpoint (for powering up my GPS or cell phone)
11) GPS mirror extension mount (brings the GPS nice and close for easy reading and manipulating)
11) Throttle lock (very handy when riding on the highway for right wrist rest)
12) NOJ fork guards (prolongs fork seal life)
13) Some kind of battery tender (I use a CTEK) to keep the battery charged during winter layup


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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 12:36 pm

Don't anyone use a cramp buster?I could not get by with out one.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 12:49 pm

model28a wrote:
Don't anyone use a cramp buster?I could not get by with out one.


I tried one but didn't like it.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 12:56 pm

Me either. Gave me hand cramps.

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 1:23 pm

bigbird wrote "I tried one but didn't like it."
When I first put it on I didn't like it.But after a little time, now I would not be with out it.I also have a throttle lock for longer rides.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 1:34 pm

Lots of great info here, I really appreciate the feedback guys. I have officially ordered my first mod....grip puppies!

It will not be the last, as my screen name suggests...I take hobbies seriously Smile

I am thinking about a Coocase V36 to store my helmet when parked. I have a 2XL Shoei that wont fit under the seat.

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 1:58 pm

model28a wrote:

When I first put it on I didn't like it.But after a little time, now I would not be with out it.I also have a throttle lock for longer rides.



How long did it take you to get used to it?
It just never seemed very natural to me.

I also have a throttle lock which I use regularly on the highway if the traffic is light and there aren't too many twisties.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 2:12 pm

I had the Cramp Buster and it interfered with me stopping during an emergency maneuver. I replace it with a Wrist-Rest

http://www.hognutz.com/accessories/188/

More adjustable, comfortable and has never interfered.

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 3:41 pm

Givi screen. stock is god-awful
Beg and plead with the Ohlins rep to make forks for a silverwing.
Get Hyperpro instead.
Beg and plead with the Michelin rep at the track to make dual compound tires in the right sizes.
Buy Pirellis instead.
Acc socket in left box,15 minutes, immediately followed by garmin GPS.
Hookers.
Divy out garbage bag of Mexican pot into more manageable sizes, and offer to previous reps to no avail.
Eat.
Sleep.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 4:12 pm

Tagg wrote:

Acc socket in left box,15 minutes, immediately followed by garmin GPS.
Hookers.


Is the Acc socket a prerequisite for the hookers?
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 4:42 pm

I would say in order:

1) Larger Windshield
2) Top Case (if you need extra storage, if not then this goes down the list)
3) Hyperpro front springs
4) Airhawk for longer rides
5) Larger grips for the longer rides.

I used to have a J. Costa but I have the 28gr Dr pulley sliders. They aren't needed but do seem to smooth it out even more. Even though the SWing is very comfortable and smooth.

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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 5:47 pm

bigbird wrote:
Tagg wrote:

Acc socket in left box,15 minutes, immediately followed by garmin GPS.
Hookers.


Is the Acc socket a prerequisite for the hookers?


That would depend on your comfort level, and your self esteem!
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 5:49 pm

bigbird wrote:
Tagg wrote:

Acc socket in left box,15 minutes, immediately followed by garmin GPS.
Hookers.


Is the Acc socket a prerequisite for the hookers?


You know you're in bad shape when your hookers require a 12 volt power source.

I think Tagg was smoking something the reps refused when he posted...
Either that or he just got satisfied by a 12 volt hooker.

Hmmm...I wonder....Is it just a coincidence, that a standard 12 volt power recepticle appears to be just large enough to accomodate an average size flacid penis? Shocked


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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 7:00 pm

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Hmmm...I wonder....Is it just a coincidence, that a standard 12 volt power recepticle appears to be just large enough to accomodate an average size flacid penis? Shocked

[/quote]

The same coincidence that allows you be able to control a silverwing with one hand while remaining in a comfortable seated position?

Oh yea . . . . . . . . your all thinking about it now.

Im done.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 7:29 pm

dspevack wrote:


Hmmm...I wonder....Is it just a coincidence, that a standard 12 volt power recepticle appears to be just large enough to accomodate an average size flacid penis? Shocked


Who woulda' thought?
Shocking!
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Thu May 05, 2011 11:32 pm

hobbydave wrote:
Lots of great info here, I really appreciate the feedback guys. I have officially ordered my first mod....grip puppies!

It will not be the last, as my screen name suggests...I take hobbies seriously Smile

I am thinking about a Coocase V36 to store my helmet when parked. I have a 2XL Shoei that wont fit under the seat.



Don't forget that you have a pin for side-mounting your helmet under the left side of the driver's seat - it's where I store my 2X HJC full-face. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Fri May 06, 2011 12:48 am

model28a wrote:
bigbird wrote "I tried one but didn't like it."

When I first put it on I didn't like it.But after a little time, now I would not be with out it.I also have a throttle lock for longer rides.


I first used a Crampbuster about 4 years ago on my Transalp, I never really appreciated how good they were until a series of long trips in 2008 onwards. In 2009, I did a 2.5k trip around France and was totally converted!

However, when the bends start swingin' the 'buster gets rotated out of the way. I am not sure quite how the different riding style on the 'wing will affect the Crampbuster though Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Fri May 06, 2011 1:39 am

What mods?

Easy.

Ride the bejesus out of the machine. Identify what really annoys you a lot. (Meaning what really pisses you off.)Then look for the mod that can alleviate your woes.

As Mr Meercat would say over here in dear old Blighty - Simples!!!!! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Fri May 06, 2011 6:52 am

Waspie wrote:


Easy.

Ride the bejesus out of the machine. Identify what really annoys you a lot. (Meaning what really pisses you off.)Then look for the mod that can alleviate your woes.


Excellent advice, because everyone is different.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Fri May 06, 2011 1:13 pm

Waspie wrote:
What mods?

Easy.

Ride the bejesus out of the machine. Identify what really annoys you a lot. (Meaning what really pisses you off.)Then look for the mod that can alleviate your woes.

As Mr Meercat would say over here in dear old Blighty - Simples!!!!! Laughing


Good advice Waspie, I am not planning on going crazy with upgrades. Just curious what others are doing first. I just ordered the Givi windscreen because the wind buffeting is really pissing me off! I'm 6'2" and dont think the stock screen does anything but direct the wind at my face. Hope this helps. Thanks again for all the responses. David
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Fri May 06, 2011 2:03 pm

Mirror extensions would be the most logical addition to the windscreen and at a LOW price/value to you...billc.
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PostSubject: Re: Mods List in logical order   Fri May 06, 2011 2:23 pm

billc. wrote:
Mirror extensions would be the most logical addition to the windscreen and at a LOW price/value to you...billc.


Just ordered the extensions.....done for now! I said I wasn't going to buy too much until I ride it more. In the last 24 hours, I ordered grip puppies, mirror extensions and a givi windscreen. Only about $150 total but I need to stop now. Smile
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