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ron1999 Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 7 Points: 482 Registration date: 2011-02-12
 | Subject: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:14 am | |
| Hi All great to see a dedicated Silverwing forum (i call mine Honda VFA - Very Fast Armchair) its a 2006 400cc Honda Silverwing. im its second owner, bought it a month ago with 26K km on it. as soon as i got it i replaced the original IRC tires with a pair of Pirelli Diablo Scooter.
and now for the question -
while riding and handling - it seems to be fine, everything is ok and no shakes / rattles or anything is felt, yet, when going 30-40 km/h, if i leave the handle bars, it starts to get wobbly and shake. is this normal? should i be concerned about it?
thanks
Ron.
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2867 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:03 am | |
| Hello, Ron, and welcome! Love the 'VFA' bit. Hands-off wobble seems to be something that some bikes suffer from and others not. If you do a SEARCH you'll find stuff about it and no doubt members will pass on their solutions in due course. I hope you've found DennisB's shop - lots of superb custom-made goodies (no gimics, though) for Swingers to buy and worth every cent/penny/shekel. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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rogerscoot Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 63 Location: Brinsley, UK Points: 574 Registration date: 2011-01-05
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:21 am | |
| Hi Ron I had this many years ago on my motorcycle. It happened at 28-30 mph which was very annoying and only happened with one brand of tyre. At that time it was thought to be because of the lack of a straight groove down the centre of the front tyre. Check your tyre pressures and front wheel bearings. Maybe try a little extra pressure in the front tyre to see if it makes a difference |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru

Number of posts: 2397 Points: 4095 Registration date: 2008-12-28
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:26 am | |
| Hi Ron, My best guess would be tire being a little out of balance or wheel bearings starting to go bad.
Well there you have it. My best guess. |
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trouble1100 Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 176 Age: 55 Location: Plum Pa Points: 1012 Registration date: 2010-04-30
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:50 am | |
| Honda suggests 1. Wheel bearing play 2. Bent rim 3. Improper installation of the wheel 4. Swing arm pivot bearing wear 5. Bent frame.
You may have a loose steering stem bearing. Adjustment on a few previous bikes corrected the headshake problem. I owed a GL1500 that was loose enough to feel the play while holding the front brake and rocking, or compressing the front forks. Take a look at the video below for a simple test and the fix for the wobble.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1401175502815
The adjustment for the Silverwing can be found in the repair manual section 14, page 30 in the FSC600 Service Manual. Honda suggests using a spring scale to test the preload but I found the test in the video is sufficient for diagnoses.
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billc. Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 124 Age: 63 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Points: 982 Registration date: 2010-02-19
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:28 am | |
| That is very useful information....THANKS for posting this...billc. |
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ron1999 Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 7 Points: 482 Registration date: 2011-02-12
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:32 pm | |
| Hi Guys, thank you all for the info, the movie on facebook really helps - i will check this tomorrow, as i thought that this is really nothing, but it may be something worth fixing.
prior buying my Swing, i took it for a complete check at a special shop who expert in these things - they say that the Swing head bearing has a little "step" in the middle of its movement. Could it be related? |
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john grinsel Silver Wing Expert

Number of posts: 529 Points: 1602 Registration date: 2009-08-18
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:15 pm | |
| A little step-----often problem years ago with Japanese bikes= notch as you turn bars side to side with wheel off ground.
Makes riding real slow difficult---could be part of your head shake problem, but check tires/wheels/load in top box also/swing arm bearings.
Are wheels on right?
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Sweendog Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 154 Location: South New Jersey Points: 1215 Registration date: 2009-07-12
 | Subject: Re: handle bar shaking when hands-off Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:31 pm | |
| Great video explaining how to check and adjust the stem bearing! Nifty skull-motif headlight on that V-Max too!
Those bikes are the motorcycle equivalent of a GTO or Charger or something. -All muscle, crap for suspension/handling performance. =) |
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