Just got a copy of Motorrad-Faherer from Germany, test of revamped SW-T600m(C-ABS).

Not much change, guess only ABS-linked now. Wheels black=ugly.51.3 DIN HP, they claim power is now up to competition (Suzuki 650?)


Price=8990 Euro so it means we get them much cheaper here. Test was in Rome. Tester said no turbulence----don't believe.....of course hard to go fast in Rome for long.

But as sales come-on for Germany---free accessory package to buy now--top box heated grips, leg shields, free inspection. For now.


Wonder when comes to US? Black Wheels enough to make me buy something else.


John Grinsel

In the "MOTORETTA" is also a test of the "new" Silver Wing...
In my oppinion nothing really new. They modified a little bit the engine for better emmision and a little bit more power, designed the tupperware like a Burgman and thats it...

Sometimes its good to hear about 'only' an evolution - it mustnt always be a 'revoltution'.
In our fast running time its usual, get all 2-3 years a complete new model, and the customer has to test the result. (I'm afraid to buy a new car - I think that the newer doesnt become better)

RJ

But after 10 years...
Sometimes a "little refoluton" is needed i my oppion. If Honda wants a little bit from "burgman-cake" they have to do something and they have the "perfect technology" for a maxi scooter: HFT...

But it seems that i'm alone with this position

I think there is everything like the old one but the new front is looking like a burgman with the 2 headlights.

Blackfly,

I wish they would come out with a newer version too with the HFT. But until then I'm happy with my SWing. The pictures of the "maybe" new honda is pretty cool looking but looks more like a sport bike. I will try to find the picture.

Yes that is what i mean...
Unfortunately i trashed the magazin after i read it so that i cannot scan it...

The "new" one looks behind the footstep like the old one (except the rear lights) and the front have the same lights side by side like a Burgman and everything is a little bit more modern and round.

But nothing realy new...

PS: On the german Honda Page are some pictures

I am in the same boat as JeffR. Give me the engine and the HFT off the DN-01 and keep the rest. A Swing with 680cc's and 60 horses? HFT as a bonus! Sign me up!!

Maybe with the next facelift in another 10 years?

Peter, Your safe. Most of us love the Silverwing scooter for is simple design, great reliability record, ease of riding, and it's ability to be up-graded easily with some wonderful accessories. Starting with a good proven foundation is the best way to go in my opinion.

Chasing change is not where I live. I have a 300,000 mile chev truck, a 250,000 mile fat cat car and a 23,000 mile Silver Wing. I appreciate reliability and I understand that my part is to maintain them in good order and appearance as best I can. In fact it is my quiet scourse of pride that the machines I own start instantly and rise to the task at hand. At the rate I'm using my Silver Wing it may be worth much more then book would suggest. I will just keep doing what I'm doing, riding.

Peter,

The picture you show of the "mid-concept" is the one I was thinking about. I think it looks pretty cool and I would buy it. I really like my SWing and couldn't see ever getting rid of it except for something like the mid-concept. I would rather have a belt too but if it came with a chain I could live with it, just wouldn't prefer a chain or even a shaft drive. Hopefully though if they come out with a new bike it will have a bit more mpg's with the new technology...even though I get 50 mpg if I ride it to the speed limit.

cool link - after reading the article go to the bottom of the page for more links to other new projects.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/honda-mid-concept-scooter/

Point well made.

I look at the picture of the Mid-Concept, and the first thing I think of is... Where is the storage? We all talk about reliability, confort, etc., but what rarely gets mentioned, but we all use it, is the large under seat storage area. I chose the SWing over the NT-700 for that very reason. IMHO, that HAS to be part of any formula for the next-gen Silverwing.

I saw a T400 'in the flesh' shortly after they appeared here - the chap riding it said it was the very first in Belgium.
Certainly it's a nice bike but looks too 'busy' for my liking.
The somewhat understated looks of Silverwing 600, 650 Burger, Tmax, Atlantic and so on are much more attractive to me and there's plenty of bling to bolt on if one wants - that shows up better against the aforesaid scooters.

Jeff,
Thanks for the clarification on the storage. I took another look at the picture, and I can now see where they might accomodate that kind of storage area. All of the open space above the rear wheel led me to believe that it was pretty sparse. I agree on the comments about the top case. Hopefully we get the answer soon on what Honda is going to do for us here in the States.

I recently got a new SW-T600. I had a 2001 Silverwing, so know what both are like to own.
There was nothing wrong with the old Swing (only had 32000 miles), but it was time for a replacement.
The new SW-T600 is mostly a cosmetic update, and I like the new front end. The new clocks are nice too. The engine is unchanged, maybe a bit more power. Also it is a bit more economical. It's a tried & tested engine, so there was no need to radically change it. New front end is slightly more aerodynamic, but only noticable at speed. Transmission is very smooth too.
Underseat storage remains unchanged, but the front 2 storage compartments are much smaller. I guess that's down to the redesigned front end.
Overall I'm very happy with the new model.

Martins,

Congrats on the new SWing and it is good to hear that others are buying it. I'm not sure if we will get the new SWing over here in the states anytime soon, if ever. I have read that it is supposed to have 1.5 more horsepower and should get about 9% better gas mileage, due to the new aerocynamics. It will be nice to hear more as you put more mileage on it and see if the gas mileage is in fact better. Thanks.

I consider my Swing "state of the art". I don't own a cell phone, our newest car is an '02 and the car I drove to church this AM is 37 years old. The last scooter was a '93 Helix which was a giant leap from the '47 Cushman I started on. Granted, this computor is not ten years old, but it is half of that. I fully expect the '07 Swing to be the last two wheeler I own in this life, no matter what bells and whistles they attempt to intice me with. Most of the folks I work with are half my age and those that ride prefer Harleys, which are hardly "state of the art". That's my two cents, thank you for a stimulating post and allowing me to comment.

For those folk like me who didn't understand HFT, here's a link that explains it.

http://world.honda.com/motorcycle-picturebook/HFT/

Mildrew is right, there is no 12v power socket. But I don't recall ever using the power socket on my old Silverwing. Not sure what that has to do with a flacid penis though

Gas mileage is about the same around town, but definitely better out of town on the motorway. So far I'm getting 53mpg in town & 65mpg on the motorway. That may improve as the engine is run in. Still only have 500 miles on it.

Also I was just browsing the web this evening, and came across an image of the front end of the Yamaha T-Max, and thought that the SW-T600 is very much like it, except for the T-Max mirrors. But the lights & front indicators are very similar.