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PostSubject: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:35 pm

Did a bit of a search here and saw several threads regarding alternate windshields, but did not see anything specific about which work and which do not work as well.

My previous bike was fully faired, which was nice in the winter and fall, but not so good in the spring and summer. I like the idea of having a larger windshield on the SWing for the winter and perhaps a smaller or cutdown windshield for the summer.

I know there are windshields by CeeBaileys, Clearview, Givi and Titebike...

I'd appreciate any comments that you all might have regarding your observations on these and any other windshields. Thanks in advance for all responses...

Bob
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:50 pm

The newish adjustable Givi screen is very good if relatively expensive.
It's made all the difference to my rapid riding, cutting down the wind-noise immeasurably.
Top marks from me.

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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:27 pm

MikeO wrote:
The newish adjustable Givi screen is very good if relatively expensive.
It's made all the difference to my rapid riding, cutting down the wind-noise immeasurably.
Top marks from me.


Save me typing lots.

What Mike said. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:32 pm

I am currently investigating the MRA Vario as a replacement for the standard screen.

Other than the sales blurb there doesnt seem much info about them or I am not looking hard enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:13 pm

Paul....following the very good reports of the new Givi Airflow, i'm looking forward to getting one in the next few weeks (out of stock at Givi at the moment). I'll then have an ordinary Givi screen to dispose of, if you're interested. Often go up to Skipton to see a mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:24 pm

I should have added:

the AirFlow screen is much easier to fit than it appears, even for those of us who worry about these things.

There are plenty of tips here, too.

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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:37 pm

Paul, my original Swing had the tall Givi, it was fine for me. My present Swing had the stock, it sucked ( Waspie that is nuances for I didn't like it. Laughing Thanks for the new word. )

I replaced the stock with the adjustable Givi. I love it. Just a little more expensive, kinda like having two windshields. Up for cool weather and down for the hot ones. The worst feature of the stock for me was the wind noise. The adjustable fixed that.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:06 pm

I bought a Givi Airflow last month to beat the V.A.T. increase here in the UK, I haven't got round to installing it yet, as I'm psyching myself up in preparation for drilling the two holes. When I was playing about with the screen fitted to the lower section a couple of days ago, I noticed it doesn't slide up and down quite as easily as the rider adjusts it in the Givi Airflow demo video.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:39 pm

All work better than stock.

I have used stock and stock with Laminar Lip---not for me.

Clearview and clearview with Gold Wing Vent----better than stock

Now new Givi adjustable=fine up to 60, maybe 65mph and recently with Laminar Lip, maybe a little better.

Based on my experience the buffeting/wind noise/not pleasant going down road is due to simple scooter design flaw----YOUR NOSE IS TOO FAR FROM TIP OF SHIELD, PERIOD--8-12 inches is ideal.

I cannot consider looking thru plastic scooter windshield as I ride in all weather, into sunsets, gather bugs on shield, etc.

Only scooter I am aware of from personal experience that can offer buffet free ride is Vespa (had 4 of them) My point of comparision is Heinrich equipped BMW with shield and legshield===perfect comfort. We should be so lucky with Silverwing.

For comparison rode NT700V Honda the other day, looking over shield, nice leaning forward riding position. NO BUFFETING, something I could live with, with no modifications. Ins is about $200 more a year than silverwing.

I did meaure nose to tip of shield on NT700V----you nose is much closer, thus quiet, still air ride.

I am shopping for new bike/scooter=not much in stock that I can use.


John Grinsel

Anybody tried MRA adjustable wing?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:05 pm

Sounds like the Airflow is the ticket...

Wondering where everyone is buying them...

Also, wondering if the top part (the adjustable wing) can simply be removed altogether...summer here gets pretty hot and it would be nice to get some serious air when it's 110 degrees...
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:16 pm

I bought mine from Helmethead ( http://www.helmetheadcycle.com/product/12549/givi-af330-bmw-r1200gs-2804-1029-airflow-adjustable-windshield ) great company to do business with. I ordered something from them once and even though it was my mistake, they accepted the item back and replaced it with the correct item. I just had to pay the return postage.

And you can remove the top of the Givi if you want to.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:22 pm

My Honda dealer in Ostend got mine for me - he is a seller of Givi stuff and gets things very quickly.
The price was much the same as the discounted price on many websites, roughly £126.00

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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:07 pm

Jinglebob wrote:
Sounds like the Airflow is the ticket...

Wondering where everyone is buying them...

Also, wondering if the top part (the adjustable wing) can simply be removed altogether...summer here gets pretty hot and it would be nice to get some serious air when it's 110 degrees...


Bob,

The top can be taken off or just slide it all the way down. But if it gets that hot I would just take it off. I would lower mine all the way when it was somewhat hot, at least here, and going on the slower 45-55 mph roads and it was nice to get the breeze.

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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:04 am

Well if I do go for an "Airflow" I may have to have a "Givi Screen Fitting" party, so if it goes wrong I can blame someone else Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:45 am

midlifecrisis (Paul) wrote:
Well if I do go for an "Airflow" I may have to have a "Givi Screen Fitting" party, so if it goes wrong I can blame someone else Smile


Laughing Trust me Paul it is the proverbial piece if p*ss!!!

Follow the pictorial on here and you will be fine.

Method for fitting is as follows.

1/ Print off pictorial from this site.

2/ Screw up Givi fitting instructions and throw in bin.

3/ Fit IAW On site guide

4/ Ride and admire the serenity of the new screen!!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:50 am

Waspie wrote:
midlifecrisis (Paul) wrote:
Well if I do go for an "Airflow" I may have to have a "Givi Screen Fitting" party, so if it goes wrong I can blame someone else Smile


Laughing Trust me Paul it is the proverbial piece if p*ss!!!

Follow the pictorial on here and you will be fine.

Method for fitting is as follows.

1/ Print off pictorial from this site.

2/ Screw up Givi fitting instructions and throw in bin.

3/ Fit IAW On site guide

4/ Ride and admire the serenity of the new screen!!!!!!

not worthy


Heh Doug

I don't know why I am panicking really, I rebuilt a CBR600 and a Diversion 600 back end all on my own, its just 'cos its so new to me Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:25 pm

midlifecrisis (Paul) wrote:
Well if I do go for an "Airflow" I may have to have a "Givi Screen Fitting" party, so if it goes wrong I can blame someone else Smile


Well it's not just me that's a bit unsure about fitting an Airflow then.

Mrs M and I were round your part of West Yorkshire last Saturday paying a visit to to the genteel world of Betty's Tea Rooms in Ilkley. Brought back a couple of Fat Rascals and some very good Pork and Black Pudding Sausage from a local butcher.

That's an exciting day when you hit 60! Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:39 pm

Meldrew wrote:
midlifecrisis (Paul) wrote:
Well if I do go for an "Airflow" I may have to have a "Givi Screen Fitting" party, so if it goes wrong I can blame someone else Smile


Well it's not just me that's a bit unsure about fitting an Airflow then.

Mrs M and I were round your part of West Yorkshire last Saturday paying a visit to to the genteel world of Betty's Tea Rooms in Ilkley. Brought back a couple of Fat Rascals and some very good Pork and Black Pudding Sausage from a local butcher.

That's an exciting day when you hit 60! Surprised


So close I could have spat at you! Smile

Next time let me know where you are and you could buy me a latte ..... or not Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:48 pm

Meldrew wrote:
midlifecrisis (Paul) wrote:
Well if I do go for an "Airflow" I may have to have a "Givi Screen Fitting" party, so if it goes wrong I can blame someone else Smile


Well it's not just me that's a bit unsure about fitting an Airflow then.



Unsure is not the word really, untill I see thing in real life, either as a kit or already fitted, I can't commit Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:26 am

I saw the pictorial for fitting the regular Givi windscreen, but not one for the Airflow. Do I use the same pictorial or is there another one floating around?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:58 am

The fitment is the same, so should be able to use the 'regular GIVI windscreen" pictorial.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:16 pm

just looked at the instructions that came with the windshield. They make no sense whatsoever....
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:16 pm

viva Italia!
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:18 pm

Jinglebob wrote:
just looked at the instructions that came with the windshield. They make no sense whatsoever....


Welcome to the world of Givi.
There are lots of threads here how to do it.
Start here:

http://www.silverwing600.com/t1997-givi-af214-fitting-issues?highlight=givi+windscreen+replacement
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:31 pm

I'm in the pictorial now and I'm trying to get the cowl off. Screws have been removed and I've pushed the cowl down and wiggled it per instruction...the upper "ears" don't seem to be coming loose and I worried I might break one or more interlocking tabs if I shove a little harder...will keep trying...
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:37 pm

Did you run a thin piece of plastic, like a credit card, down inside the joint between the garnish and the fairing? Leave the plastic down at the bottom, then push firmly downwards on the garnish to get it to slide DOWN. Doing that will not break any tabs.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:39 pm

OK, let me try that...
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:44 pm

Nope...can't see where the locking tabs are, so can't seem to get the credit card to the correct position.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:49 pm

Wait a minute...I have the service manual...Remove the set screws on the fairing!!!! Ahh....makes sense now...came right off. Didn't understand that on the pictorial, but the service manual cleared it up.

Proceeding with stupid look on face. affraid


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PostSubject: Re: Alternate windshields   Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:52 pm

Whoa, whoa, whoa, you need to give the garnish a HARD push downwards from the top edge. Slide the credit card down to the very bottom of the garnish. Leave it there. You can't see the tabs. It's in tight. Trust me on this, you won't break the tabs if you push down. Don't give up. Try again.
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