Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum

Welcome to the home for Honda SilverWing and everyone interested. This is a place to ask questions, share, and learn about the SilverWing and its dedicated riders. Please post an introduction when you join as a sign of Courtesy.
 
HomeCalendarGalleryFAQSearchRegisterLog in
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Latest topics
» The Silver Wing is TOO good
by Greysilver Today at 20:37

» Just returned from 36-37 day trip
by john grinsel Today at 20:19

» FS: 2013 Black Silverwing 600 ABS in Central VA $3600
by drfrisker Today at 19:24

» Radial Tires?
by Sidewinder Pilot Today at 19:07

» Noise on Acceleration
by Scootypuff Snr Today at 16:41

» Brand new tires installed
by DerrillW Today at 09:42

» Reflex as a second scoot
by JeffR Yesterday at 19:00

» clutch bell puller
by siataukreg Yesterday at 17:52

» Front End Strip for Head Bearings and Fork Seals
by DodgetheRog Yesterday at 17:19

» Plastic Fading
by Scootypuff Snr Yesterday at 16:48

Navigation
 Portal
 Index
 Memberlist
 Profile
 FAQ
 Search
free forum
 
Share | 
 

 Vario tool

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
BlackFly
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
avatar

Number of posts : 151
Age : 38
Location : Germany
Points : 2613
Registration date : 2010-11-20

PostSubject: Vario tool   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 07:15

I want to buy a tool for the vario removal.
Can anyone tell me the diameter of the holes for the tool and how far away the both holes from each other?
I wanna buy this tool but i have to check the distance and diameter first
Back to top Go down
Waspie
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru
avatar

Number of posts : 2392
Age : 65
Location : Portland, UK
Points : 5467
Registration date : 2009-07-26

PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 09:06

Do not think distance is the problem with the tool you highlighted as it looks to be hinged in the centre, but I do believe that the holes that the tools insert into are threaded, (6mm I think!),

So therefore the end pins need to be threaded also. Therein lies the problem!

Or you could manufacture this little baby!

http://www.leroybeal.net/motorcycles/silverwing/articles/drivepulleytool/drivepulleytool.html

Cheap but effective.
Back to top Go down
http://www.facebook.com/Waspie41
honda_silver
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru
avatar

Number of posts : 2457
Location : Georgetown, Tx
Points : 5698
Registration date : 2008-12-23

PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 09:47

Waspie wrote:
but I do believe that the holes that the tools insert into are threaded

I have the similar Honda tool and the inserts are not threaded. The inserts are relatively short, which makes it harder for one person to hold both pins flat with sufficient pressure AND loosen/tighten the variator nut with one person. Another pair of hands makes it easier.

Honda has another tool which is just a plate of metal with a large hole and two smaller holes with threads to screw a bolt through and bolt onto the outside casing holes ... Much shorter than Leroy's tool and portable.
Back to top Go down
Waspie
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru
avatar

Number of posts : 2392
Age : 65
Location : Portland, UK
Points : 5467
Registration date : 2009-07-26

PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 10:11

honda_silver wrote:
Waspie wrote:
but I do believe that the holes that the tools insert into are threaded

I have the similar Honda tool and the inserts are not threaded. The inserts are relatively short, which makes it harder for one person to hold both pins flat with sufficient pressure AND loosen/tighten the variator nut with one person. Another pair of hands makes it easier.

Thanks for that, I now know that the pins are not threaded that makes life a little easier!! (The pins are no longer critical to the manufacture).

I envisage a home made tool, braced against the ground. Feet planted either side of the main bolt. ratchet extension between feet and giving it some serious force to undue the bolt holding the variator.

With luck the same procedure in reverse to refit!!!
Back to top Go down
http://www.facebook.com/Waspie41
Cosmic_Jumper
Site Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 2230
Age : 74
Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA
Points : 5538
Registration date : 2009-06-12

PostSubject: Vario removing   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 10:15

Here is a link to a DIY Variator holding tool. Its adjustible so it will fit many applications. The holes in the variator are not threaded in the Silverwing (either the 400 or 600 models), but the holder bolts used for those locations should extend ~15 mm into the variator holes. The plan says to use M6 x 30 mm long for these bolts. The variator holes are about 6 mm diameter and spaced 100 mm apart. The holding bolt is 17 mm.

The Honda Universal Holder tool has very short pins used to hold the variator. They often slip and cause the variator hole flanges to break. The longer bolts of this DIY tool fit deeper and are much more secure, allowing removal of the variator without needing a 3rd hand

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YBwnTR7e6PoE9nH-tiLKc9gn-WZuL3AtWb_z_NrEslWjD23jbSTyjAbDDnKb-AtGVGJYeSuiACvw_QNx2s4lkjxoWnphb7DHdZII/Variator%20Pulley%20Tool.pdf

Here is a YouTube video showing how to remove the variator without using a Special Tool. The video, while not in English or German, is very self explanatory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_4xK1QCeM&NR=1

Hope this helps

Tim


Last edited by Cosmic_Jumper on Fri 07 Jan 2011, 11:19; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
BlackFly
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
avatar

Number of posts : 151
Age : 38
Location : Germany
Points : 2613
Registration date : 2010-11-20

PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 10:50

Thx for the infos

I think the "toolless Version" is good but if you use a torquewrench it is not aplicable (if you want to do it correct because the wood of the hammer will make it inaccurate).
Back to top Go down
jdeereanton
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru
avatar

Number of posts : 1997
Age : 70
Location : Huntsville, AL
Points : 5207
Registration date : 2008-12-24

PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 14:38

I have always enjoyed the way Bruce writes.
Back to top Go down
http://kimdaleanton.wordpress.com
joncallihan
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts : 1026
Age : 79
Location : Lafayette, Colorado, USA
Points : 4251
Registration date : 2009-02-16

PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 17:15

jdeereanton wrote:
I have always enjoyed the way Bruce writes.

Especially the beginning and ending of this particular bit. alien beamed up

Back to top Go down
http://www.joncallihan.com
BlackFly
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
avatar

Number of posts : 151
Age : 38
Location : Germany
Points : 2613
Registration date : 2010-11-20

PostSubject: Re: Vario tool   Sat 15 Jan 2011, 08:08

I bought the tool and 1 hour ago i installed a new belt and the J.Costa Evo II
It works without any problems and it is possible to do the Job alone with this tool.
My Crash bars are installed on the footpeg with a longer screw. I used this screw to block the tool and with this trick it was easy to use the tool without helping hands
Back to top Go down
 
Vario tool
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Vario tool
» Craig's List Search Tool
» K100 tool kit
» clutch tool k100
» Scotty Divot Repair Tool

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum :: Honda Silver Wing :: Maintenance, Tips and Hints-
Jump to: