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 ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working

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PostSubject: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:31 am

Hi there, I have a '04 silverwing with 12.000 miles (just had a service where the brake fluid, air filter, spark plugs etc. were changed etc.)
10-15 miles after the service the ABS light started blinking and the ABS system stopped working. The stealership says they need to change the ABS ECU , but I'm sure it's something much more simpler than this. Has anyone experienced the same issue? What would be your suggestions to diagnose the cause of the problem?
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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:14 am

Chances are 9 out of 10 that they didn't bleed the brakes completely / fully / correctly (delete as appropriate). And/or they've gotten brake fluid on the rotor.

If that does end up being the issue then it's time to change to a dealer that actually knows what they're doing. Ya really don't want some dick-fingered wrench fooling with your ride --"Gol-ly, always wanted t'fix me one-a them scooter thangs".
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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:39 pm

My "guess" - a failure to properly bleed the brakes. That "guess" does not preclude the ABS ECU could have failed, it just seems more likely that they did not do a proper bleeding of the brakes.

Now then, some shops do not do a full brake fluid replacement. Some shops will just siphon out the fluid in the reservoirs and then refill. Not a very kind way to do the task, but it happens.

However, I have not experienced this problem and am truly not familiar.

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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:49 pm

Not really sure. Surely the dealer can double-check their own work to find out. Either that, or find someone (maybe yourself) to do a quick brake system bleed; which should eliminate that aspect. I'd think if the system operated ok for awhile, then failed, that the ECU could also be a plausible cause. But do the simple stuff first.

And "CJ"... could we watch the salty phrases ? ? ? I'm no prude but this is hardly the place for such things.
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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:19 am

(Ya really don't want some dick-fingered wrench fooling with your ride --"Gol-ly, always wanted t'fix me one-a them scooter thangs".)

I love that description.
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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:40 am

DickO wrote:

And "CJ"... could we watch the salty phrases ? ? ? I'm no prude but this is hardly the place for such things.


Point taken DickO.

Sorry if you were offended.

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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:08 pm

eggster34 wrote:
Hi there, I have a '04 silverwing with 12.000 miles (just had a service where the brake fluid, air filter, spark plugs etc. were changed etc.)
10-15 miles after the service the ABS light started blinking and the ABS system stopped working. The stealership says they need to change the ABS ECU , but I'm sure it's something much more simpler than this. Has anyone experienced the same issue? What would be your suggestions to diagnose the cause of the problem?


I just ordered my stainless steel speed bleeders from http://speedbleeder.zoovy.com/category/stainlesssteel. There is a non-stainless steel version which is cheaper.

3 - SB8125L Stainless Steel speed bleeders
1 - Speed Bleeder Bag & Hose Combo
1 - Sealant ( http://speedbleeder.zoovy.com/category )

It may help quickly remove any air bubbles from the system and make it much easier for you to change yourself in the future.

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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:32 pm

Thanks "CJ"... that was very kind response.
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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:13 pm

the issue was with the abs sensor on the front wheel, I got it fixed pretty quickly and everything's back to normal. thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:18 am

Told you I had no real clue.

Glad it was a quick fix.

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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:28 am

eggster34 wrote:
the issue was with the abs sensor on the front wheel, I got it fixed pretty quickly and everything's back to normal.!


Thanks for letting us know ... I am sure that this will help someone in the future.

Was the ABS sensor "bumped" during service or was the front wheel removed?

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PostSubject: Re: ABS Light Flashing / ABS Not Working   Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:35 pm

neither, I'd ridden it for a while after service and everything was ok, then I didn't ride the bike for a few days and then the next time I got on it the abs light lit up so I'm not sure what caused it Smile
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