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winged warrior
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PostSubject: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 27, 2018 3:06 am

Hello Scooter Friends, I have a seat lock that does not lock anymore, it clicks part way, but you can pull up the seat anytime, no matter how hard you try to push the back of the seat in. Have put a lot of WD40 in. The spring is securely in place. Is there anything I can do? (2009 SW) - the metal U is worn at the bottom a little, I feel like it does not go far enough in.

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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 27, 2018 8:50 am

There are two latches. Could either or both of those latches have accidently been "set" which would cause the seat to not close completely?

IIRC the rear U is adjustable and removeable. You might try removing that U to use as a test tool on those latch mechanism to insure that they function correctly. Once you insure that the latch mechanism function correctly you may find that you'll need to add a spacer to the U mount so that it mates with the latch correctly when the seat is closed.

The forward U is not removeable or adjustable.

You might also check the FSM to see if those latch assemblies are adjustable. Could be that an assembly mount bolt has loosened or been lost and the mechanism has been knocked out of position which is causing the problem.

Please let us know how you get on with this problem. We all benefit from shared information.

Tim
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2018 8:16 am

Thanks CJ, I took off the rear U (had to gingerly remove staples and manoeuvre anchor out of the foam and plastic) - the metal hook that turns into the u piece to lock it had snapped.  So while it will lock closed - any pressure will snap it back as the piece is broken.

I'm pretty sure it broke from too much pressure cramming things under the seat over the years because I treat my SW like a car.  The good news is a new latch will cost considerably less than a car.

Could anyone please tell me the part # for the female rear seat latch piece? (SW 2009)
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2018 9:18 am

https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/scooter/2009/fsc600d-ac-silver-wing/seat
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2018 9:35 am

According to the FSM you should grease the seat latch mechanism but who does. After reading this topic I went and looked at mine and poked a finger into the dark depths, I could feel the mechanism and spring, and there was a smear of grease on my fingertip when I withdrew it.

Having a handy tube of grease on the shelf nearby, I squeezed a small blob on my fingertip in best gynaecologist fashion, and smeared on the latch innards. Worked the key a few times, and themclosed the seat, job done.

It's taken me more time to type this post with my freshly cleaned index finger than it did to inspect and grease that latch mechanism.
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2018 10:05 am

Thank you all, I will let you know how the repair goes (: In the meantime, I'm hoping someone will steal my really smelly motorcycle gloves so I can by new.

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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2018 3:28 pm

Leave the gloves on the seat, someone will steal them for you.
For added pleasure urinate in them and allow to dry first, it will give you a warm glow everytime you think of the thief putting them on.
Errr, it might be a good idea to buy a new pair first.
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2018 8:25 am

Meldrew wrote:
According to the FSM you should grease the seat latch mechanism but who does. After reading this topic I went and looked at mine and poked a finger into the dark depths, I could feel the mechanism and spring, and there was a smear of grease on my fingertip when I withdrew it.

Having a handy tube of grease on the shelf nearby, I squeezed a small blob on my fingertip in best gynaecologist fashion, and smeared on the latch innards. Worked the key a few times, and themclosed the seat, job done.

It's taken me more time to type this post with my freshly cleaned index finger than it did to inspect and grease that latch mechanism.

ROFL. Those greasy fingers aren't very good for typing. Slip from key to9 key and have to keep backspacing. Then have to clean off the keyboard after is a bummer...
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 12, 2018 11:25 am

The new latch came in the mail and I took off the spoiler back and unclipped the sides - there were two cables and an electronic piece, I marked the cable closest to the spring with white chalk then set about changing the new pieces one at a time onto the new latch. The old and new latch looked surprisingly the same (there was no snapped metal) - but much to my surprise when I screwed everything back in and closed the seat their was a satisfying snap and the seat stayed locked! I have concluded the metal was worn down. The new latch came prelubed but I added a dollop more of lube so this won't happen again in another 94 000 km(:

When I was all done, I went to close the gate where I had been working on the bike and I heard a mighty crash. My bike had fallen over (it was on a weird angle or I got off too quickly and didn't make sure that the kick stand had stettled). This made me feel bad after I had spent a couple hours fixing and cleaning the bike - the brake lever has an artistic curve to it and some scratches on some of the body, the seat was open and all the contents spilled out onto the road and sidewalk. This is the second time I've dropped my bike in 9 years and am reevaluating my life goals and ambitions.

Thank you all (despite the fall) for your support and encouragement for this project
Kevin


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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm

Sorry to hear that your bike fell over. If the scratches are not too deep, try using the Ultimate polishing compound by Meggarts(sp). It works wonders on minor scratches. If your seat was locked, the items shouldn't have fallen out when your bike fell to it's side. Good luck and ride safe!
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeThu Jul 12, 2018 5:23 pm

I did almost the same thing in my garage Kevin.

I got off the SWing without putting the stand down. Luckily it fell over onto my workbench with no damage at all. It only fell over at about a 45 degree angle so it wasn't hard to pick back up. I did look around out of my open garage door to make sure nobody was watching and laughing...

It sucks getting OLD...
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 13, 2018 11:03 am

Mine is now a trike no more fall down and go boom. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: seat latch worn   seat latch worn I_icon_minitimeFri Jul 13, 2018 1:44 pm

Trikes certainly solve a lot of problems in the falling over department !
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