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 Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10

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PostSubject: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:06 pm

Edited 2-8-10 PLEASE READ THE NEW INFORMATION

Hi All,

I put in some wrong info when I posted this the first time. The 2 screws I took pictures of are not the "idle adjustment" but fuel mixture adjustments. The Idle Adjustment Screw is in between the "2 screws" but forward about 2". Please see the pic below that I'm posting with this.



If you look throught this hole you will see the idle screw in the location of the front circle in the picture above. When I was reading the manual of where the idle screw was, it said to look through this hole and you will see the screw. Well when I did that these are the only screws I saw so I thought that these were the idle screws. Well I found out that they are for the mixture and not idle. It just so happens to have adjusted the idle rpm's because I was adjusting the mixture. I think when I adjusted mine I made it run "richer" . I thought I was smelling fuel but haven't had the chance to ride it a lot due to the rain.

But I went out today and let if warm up good and then I put the screws back to where they were, or as close as I thought they were. I remember I turned each screw about 3/4 of a turn. So I turned them back to where they were before and then I saw the Idle screw and raised my idle. It does seem to run/idle a bit better. I also noticed my gas mileage went down a few miles per gallon, after the first time I adjusted the idle, so maybe that is why.

I want to apologize for the wrong information. When I went out the first time and looked down, the 2 screws were the only screws I saw. But after finding out that these weren't the idle screws I went back out and played around and found it. What happened was that a rubber hose was inbetween the hole and the idle screw and it was blocking me from seeing it. So I gently pushed it over and saw the screw.

The "Idle Screw" is silver and can be adjusted with a phillips or standard screwdriver. The 2 screws that I thought were the idle screws are "Copper" looking. So if you went by my instructions please go out and re-do what you did. I hope you can remember about how much you turned the 2 screws. You can then adjust the idle with properly.

Again, I apologize and hope you can put it back to normal.

Thanks,

JeffR


Hi,

I went out and adjusted my idle today and thought I would take 2 pictures to show what I did. I consulted the manual to find the idle adjuster screws. There are 2 of them.




The picture above just shows the cotter pin on the "shock" that holds the seat up. Just remove the Cotter Pin so you can remove the "shock" from the top bracket. This will allow you to push the seat up farther to get more room to work. It is very easy but be careful since it could fly somewhere and you could lose it, or it could fall down one of the openings inside the SWing.







You will see 2 Idle Adjustment screws, I have circles around them in the above picture, that need to be turned. I turned each one the same amount or at least as close as possible. I turned these "Counter-Clockwise" to raise the idle rpm's. My rpm's were about 1,000-1,100 when fully warmed up and when I tried to start the bike after it was running I had to give it throttle to keep it running. So I put it up to 1,300-1,400 rpm's and it seems a bit smoother at idle now.

I used the manual to find these screws and they were really the only ones I could find so I assume they are the idle adjusters, since everything worked good and did exactly what I wanted. It is probably the easiest adjustment to do on the SWing, which is why there are only 2 pictures.

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2004 Reflex (sold 3,500 miles)

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Last edited by JeffR on Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:37 pm; edited 5 times in total
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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:19 pm

Thanks , now my engine wont cut out anymore
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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:09 pm

You did it again. You are a real pro. Thanks.

p.s. Do you think it safe to try the adjustment with the engine running? Or did you have it off?
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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:26 pm

Tom,

You need to do it with the engine running. I just looked at my tach while adjusting it.

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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:32 pm

u p tom wrote:
You did it again. You are a real pro. Thanks.

p.s. Do you think it safe to try the adjustment with the engine running? Or did you have it off?


Honda Service Manual says:

* Inspect and adjust the idle speed after other maintenance items have been performed an are within specification.
* The engine must be warm for accurate idle speed inspection and adjustment.

Warm up the engine.
Place the scooter on the centerstand.

Unlock the seat with the ignition key.
Open the seat.

Turn the throttle stop screw as required to obtain the specified idle speed.

IDLE SPEED: 1,300 +- 100 min (rpm)


The best way to obtain the specified idle speed should be with the engine running. If you start and stop the SWing the additional starting fuel mixture could effect the idle RPM ... and you would have to wait longer to determine what the idle RPM would be.

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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:36 pm

Hi everyone,

I just edited my original post since I gave incorrect information. Please read the very first post I made in this thread. Thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:15 pm

So is the adjustment one or two screws to turn?
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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:43 pm

The Idle screw is only one screw. The 2 screws in my initial post is for the mixure. The idle screw is silver and the 2-mixture screws are copper colored.

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PostSubject: Re: Idle Adjustment (PLEASE READ) !!! 2-9-10   Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:10 pm

Thanks Jeff, now we know what all 3 screw control. All your info is greatly appreciated...Dick
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