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Swing13
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PostSubject: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 3:36 pm

Can't seem to find any info on this forum regarding changing the thermostat but looks like a fairly straight forward job in the manual.  I'm about ready for a coolant change anyway. Bikes getting close to 3 years old with 15K miles.

My 2013 SW is taking a long time to come up to operating temperature, 3-4 miles usually, even in this Florida weather.  Used to heat up a lot quicker.  I suspect that the thermostat is not closing all the way.  If I'm going to pull it out to check it I may as well pop for a new one.

Anyone done this?  Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 5:40 pm

Does it operate normally other than that fact? I've not paid close attention on how long mine takes but 3 or 4 miles even in warmer weather doesn't seem to be that out of the ordinary.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 6:36 pm

Why bother until you know if you really have problem? 3-5miles in just about any temp puts gauge in normal positon.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 8:04 pm

All I can say is it takes a long time to get up to temp compared to my GL1800 which is usually within a mile. It's only been the past few months that it's been this way. Fairly simple to pull the thermostat as long as the coolant is being drained anyway. Thought someone else may have done this procedure, just trying to pick up some advice.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 8:05 pm

And yes, it's normal other than that.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 9:15 pm

POM is everything Smile one reason I changed all the fluids when I bought mine, and the belt, gitter dun.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 9:37 pm

Exactly what I plan to do . . .
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 24, 2016 10:59 pm

3 - 4 miles sounds about right compared to my 2011 with 8000 miles.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 25, 2016 3:45 am

Hi Swing13,

I think mine takes about two to three miles in pretty cold weather.
Since the closed loop feedback fuelling control doesn't kick in until the engine is reasonably warmed up it needs to be right, especially if doing several short trips or your fuel consumption will suffer.

Since you're draining the coolant anyway it makes sense to do it now rather than later.

As it doesn't appear to be a common job you might like to take some pictures and post them up to add to the pictorials on here - please.

Let us know the outcome - it's an interesting one.
I'm sure it'll be pretty straightforward but good luck anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 25, 2016 5:41 am

If it 's not  broken don't fix it. How often do one change a thermostat in a car? You are riding a bullet proof Honda .
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 25, 2016 9:02 am

With all the "new" coolants out there that supposedly go 100K w/o changing, I am not in a big hurry to change mine in the SW. Flushed and changed the fluid in my Goldwing but it had over 30K and 9 years on it so to be safe...

If it ain't broke...
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 27, 2016 3:54 pm

I recently changed mine for the same reason.I had higher consumption because of that.Looked like an easy thing to do but it wasn't.My mec said that he had to remove the center compartment(between legs) to manage extract the thermostat.Now half distance to reach working point.I've changed thermostats to all of my vehicles.They tend to be gradually "lazy" after time
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Thermostat   Changing Thermostat I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 28, 2016 12:54 am

A couple of points. A Goldwing will warm up sooner than a SW because the SW has more radiator area per CC of engine than the GL. Also the Goldwing engine is pushing over 1000 pounds with the average rider.

In reality thermostats rarely fail. The can get crudded up or corroded if one doesn't flush the system every two or three years or uses the wrong coolant. Honda specifies that any coolant used HAS NO SILICATES. Silicates are put in some aluminum block engines to scour out corrosion in the block. In Honda bike engines silicates will damage the water pump seals causing premature failure.
Extended life antifreeze 50,000-15000 mile coolants don't normally have silicates. Prestone extended life and Peak extended life antifreeze is okay as is the Honda labeled coolant.
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