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PostSubject: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 25, 2016 12:25 pm

Hi all-

Noticed a strange crack in my SW's LH skirt body panel--a small hole with a crack running down the panel towards the bottom. The hole/crack is barely discernable but bugs me on an otherwise pristine bike (only 450 miles on it!).

Two alternatives:
1. Fill in the tiny hole (bondo?) and glue the crack for stability. Super glue or ABS glue?

2. Buy a new panel. Bike Bandit doesn't have a listing for a 2013 model but does have a 2012 part, listed as "graphite black." Is that color the same as the plain-old "black" listed as the color on the Honda website for both the 2012 and 2013 US models? Is my assumption the same part fits both years correct?

Many thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 25, 2016 12:54 pm

Drill a small hole at the end of the crack to keep it from running further, a 1/64 " should do it. You could then just repair the panel after placing a patch for strength on the back side of the damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 25, 2016 11:02 pm

Those hair line cracks in the floor skirt are endemic on the SW. Best to repair the crack from the inside with with smear of ABS cement followed by a layer of with fiberglass tape (for dry wall joints) then another layer of ABS cement. Oatey ABS Plastic Pipe cement, not PVC/ABS, cement or one of the Weld-On ABS cement products work well.

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PostSubject: Re: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 26, 2016 12:35 am

The exact color code for your SW can be verified on the panel under the seat
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PostSubject: Re: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 26, 2016 2:13 pm

All good tips-many thanks! Will study the body panel section of the manual and hope that I don't have to take the whole bike apart to get to the back side of the skirt. Thanks again!
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PostSubject: Re: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 26, 2016 9:25 pm

Tape the outside and use ABS cement on the inside. A reinforcement as Cosmic Jumper said is a good idea unless the crack is very short. When using ABS cement you'll get a chemical weld which is stronger than any epoxy or surface glue. I repaired a lot of old Goldwing plastic in my old shop with ABS. It's nice when a cheap cement works better than the high priced stuff. The right kind comes in a small round can with a dauber under the lid. Lowes or Home Depot or any good hardware store has the stuff. Gooey black gunk. Use thin coats rather than a thick heavy layer because the cement does soften the substrate plastic. A big thick layer will skin over which really slows the curing and gives the stuff time to melt clear through the bike's plastic.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 26, 2016 9:37 pm

You can make a paste of the fore mentioned cement by buying a ABS fitting and collect the grindings from a coarse sanding disk or wheel and mixing it together with the paste, it makes a great filler.
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PostSubject: Re: Repair or replace, and, is black, black?   Repair or replace, and, is black, black? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 27, 2016 12:57 am

Yep, ABS 'putty' works well, just don't put it on too thick. A couple thin layers work best. You can even mold new tabs, if you have any broken ones, with the stuff
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