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PostSubject: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 27, 2011 2:09 pm

I hope I am not beating not beating a dead horse here. In anticipatoin of moving to a Silverwing in the future I was checking to see if my oil filter wrench would fit the Fram 6607 filter. Not a chance. Too big. I did find out the Bosch 3300 and the STP 6607 match the Fram filter. BTW, the filter wrench that fits the 6607/3300 filters only costs $5.99
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 27, 2011 3:03 pm

Hi Keith,

We all know that we can use what ever products we want on our scooters but in my observations and study, there are many better filters on the market then FRAM for use on the Silverwing. This subject has been talked about allot on this forum and many others... but use whatever you want but... please do the research.

Just my thoughts. sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 27, 2011 3:18 pm

DennisB
No problem. I know the opinions w/Fram oil filters. I use Bosch on my RT and 4Runner. No more oil filter threads from me. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 28, 2011 6:50 am

Just changed my oil and Filter. In UK the none Honda one seems to be HF204. Got one off ebay for £6.88. Incuding p.p. I always used a chain wrench to remove oil filters, or banged a screw driver through it, if it was the old one. I now have a shiny new wrench i got from Aldi for £3.99. one size fits all as it is adjustable. Worked brilliantly.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 29, 2011 11:43 am

I personally stay away from Fram filters; The Honda filter at the dealership cost me less than a Bosch would have cost at the parts store, so I pick that one up.

For a wrench, I use the same wrap-around I use for the family car. It just says "small oil filter wrench" and I think it was not more than 6 dollars.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 29, 2011 12:43 pm

Solution simple----SilverWing uses same filter as Goldwing---WalMart ST6607, works on my NT, too. Priced $3-$4 US.

Nobody here actually rides enough to wear out Honda engine.

Various bikes/scooters WalMart Oil and filters have not failed me in the past 500,000 miles or so. 250 scooters being run wide open most of time (5 of them).

John Grinsel
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 29, 2011 1:18 pm

Another oil filter that many Goldwing owners use is the Walmart ST7317, I've used it on my SilverWing for the last three oil changes.
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PostSubject: OIl fiters   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 29, 2011 2:00 pm

Bigbird I've never met anyone that could remove an old oil filter by hand.
I can just about still crush a grape:x
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 29, 2011 4:13 pm

I removed my filter by hand last time, then again when I put the filter on I make sure I put oil on the gasket and after it seats I only turn it about 1/2 a turn by hand.I almost never have a problem getting them off.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 04, 2011 5:21 pm

DennisB wrote:
Hi Keith,

We all know that we can use what ever products we want on our scooters but in my observations and study, there are many better filters on the market then FRAM for use on the Silverwing. This subject has been talked about allot on this forum and many others... but use whatever you want but... please do the research.

Just my thoughts. sunny
I, too, did my extensive research and sorry, beg to differ about the Frams. One thing I noticed about all the "testers" who did the "research" was they were amateurs who really knew nothing about what was good or bad. They made their own assumptions based on preconceived notions. One thread I followed actually led to an explanation of why Fram built their filters the way they did - BY A FRAM ENGINEER. His explanation not only was plausible, but made perfect sense. Put simply, the Fram filters are not inferior in any way shape or form. Their Tough Gard filter (TG) filters out as small a micron as anything on the market, contains synthetic media and is guaranteed for 10K. It's about 6 bucks. They're not #1 for nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 04, 2011 5:31 pm

keithb wrote:
I hope I am not beating not beating a dead horse here. In anticipatoin of moving to a Silverwing in the future I was checking to see if my oil filter wrench would fit the Fram 6607 filter. Not a chance. Too big. I did find out the Bosch 3300 and the STP 6607 match the Fram filter. BTW, the filter wrench that fits the 6607/3300 filters only costs $5.99
The Fram Tough Guard 6607 is made of synthetic media, filters the smallest microns, and works for 10K. Sold! 6 bucks at Advanced Auto Parts.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 05, 2011 10:53 am

Slick-Tenn wrote:
DennisB wrote:
Hi Keith,

We all know that we can use what ever products we want on our scooters but in my observations and study, there are many better filters on the market then FRAM for use on the Silverwing. This subject has been talked about allot on this forum and many others... but use whatever you want but... please do the research.

Just my thoughts. sunny
I, too, did my extensive research and sorry, beg to differ about the Frams. One thing I noticed about all the "testers" who did the "research" was they were amateurs who really knew nothing about what was good or bad. They made their own assumptions based on preconceived notions. One thread I followed actually led to an explanation of why Fram built their filters the way they did - BY A FRAM ENGINEER. His explanation not only was plausible, but made perfect sense. Put simply, the Fram filters are not inferior in any way shape or form. Their Tough Gard filter (TG) filters out as small a micron as anything on the market, contains synthetic media and is guaranteed for 10K. It's about 6 bucks. They're not #1 for nothing.

A Fram engineer saying his filter is as good as anyones? Of course it sounds plausible, and makes perfect sense. Did you really think he would say anything else? Use your brain. i will always trust a 3rd party engineering report before a oem manufacturer, be it filters or anything else. But then again, ive never been lied to by a corporation that has a vested interest before. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 05, 2011 11:04 am

Having said that, and to soften it a bit, i have no recollection of any motor having failed due to any oil filter, or its life being somehow measurably shortened by one.

I believe that somewhere out there in the myriad of articles and charts, and personal qualifications, there is a "best" oil filter somewhere, i also believe that the oil its self, and its condition, is more of a contributing factor to engine performance and durability.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 08, 2011 7:07 pm

Tagg wrote:
Slick-Tenn wrote:
DennisB wrote:
Hi Keith,

We all know that we can use what ever products we want on our scooters but in my observations and study, there are many better filters on the market then FRAM for use on the Silverwing. This subject has been talked about allot on this forum and many others... but use whatever you want but... please do the research.

Just my thoughts. sunny
I, too, did my extensive research and sorry, beg to differ about the Frams. One thing I noticed about all the "testers" who did the "research" was they were amateurs who really knew nothing about what was good or bad. They made their own assumptions based on preconceived notions. One thread I followed actually led to an explanation of why Fram built their filters the way they did - BY A FRAM ENGINEER. His explanation not only was plausible, but made perfect sense. Put simply, the Fram filters are not inferior in any way shape or form. Their Tough Gard filter (TG) filters out as small a micron as anything on the market, contains synthetic media and is guaranteed for 10K. It's about 6 bucks. They're not #1 for nothing.

A Fram engineer saying his filter is as good as anyones? Of course it sounds plausible, and makes perfect sense. Did you really think he would say anything else? Use your brain. i will always trust a 3rd party engineering report before a oem manufacturer, be it filters or anything else. But then again, ive never been lied to by a corporation that has a vested interest before. Wink
Ouch! First of all, "third party?" All of the "third parties" I saw were non-engineer-types - regular guys like you and me. Please tell me, how is they know what's good and what's bad in designing and building an oil filter? I'm not a country bumpkin, my friend. When I said the Fram engineer's explanation made perfect sense, I mean I understand bullshit when I hear it. Your friend next door saws a Fram filter in two and proclaims "it doesn't have a steel frame. Therefore, it's not a good filter and is unacceptable." Now THAT is bullshit my friend!
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 09, 2011 9:03 pm

bigbird wrote:
Slick-Tenn: I don't think Tagg is your friend.
I'm not looking for friends, but it really does irritate me when people simply accept what they're reading simply because it's in writing. Regarding the dissing of Fram filters, there have been ONLY laymen wade in on the subject - using their own (uneducated) opinions. Fram is the #1 automotive filter maker for a good reason: They make reasonably-priced, quality oil filters. Period. And listen, I'm not a brand loyalist! I've used other filters and they're (mostly) all good. Personally, I think today, the Mobil 1 Oil filter is the best quality filter on the market, but it's expensive. The Fram does ALMOST as good a job for about half the cost. Yes, the Walmart filters are excellent quality too (manufactured by Champion Filters - not the spark plug folks), but do not mention their effectiveness at filtering (Fram is 97-99%).
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 09, 2011 9:59 pm

Has anyone checked the consumer report Mag or web site to see the oil filter tests that thay did. Maybe someone on this forum can find the mag that has the oil filter tests or maybe someone has a paid mebership to the consumer report web site. The test that thay did should tell us the filter that filters the oil the best.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 09, 2011 10:17 pm

We don't need no stinking reports! We got Grinsel! :lol!:
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 10, 2011 1:34 am

Slick-Tenn wrote:
Tagg wrote:
Slick-Tenn wrote:
DennisB wrote:
Hi Keith,

We all know that we can use what ever products we want on our scooters but in my observations and study, there are many better filters on the market then FRAM for use on the Silverwing. This subject has been talked about allot on this forum and many others... but use whatever you want but... please do the research.

Just my thoughts. sunny
I, too, did my extensive research and sorry, beg to differ about the Frams. One thing I noticed about all the "testers" who did the "research" was they were amateurs who really knew nothing about what was good or bad. They made their own assumptions based on preconceived notions. One thread I followed actually led to an explanation of why Fram built their filters the way they did - BY A FRAM ENGINEER. His explanation not only was plausible, but made perfect sense. Put simply, the Fram filters are not inferior in any way shape or form. Their Tough Gard filter (TG) filters out as small a micron as anything on the market, contains synthetic media and is guaranteed for 10K. It's about 6 bucks. They're not #1 for nothing.

A Fram engineer saying his filter is as good as anyones? Of course it sounds plausible, and makes perfect sense. Did you really think he would say anything else? Use your brain. i will always trust a 3rd party engineering report before a oem manufacturer, be it filters or anything else. But then again, ive never been lied to by a corporation that has a vested interest before. Wink
Ouch! First of all, "third party?" All of the "third parties" I saw were non-engineer-types - regular guys like you and me. Please tell me, how is they know what's good and what's bad in designing and building an oil filter? I'm not a country bumpkin, my friend. When I said the Fram engineer's explanation made perfect sense, I mean I understand bull**** when I hear it. Your friend next door saws a Fram filter in two and proclaims "it doesn't have a steel frame. Therefore, it's not a good filter and is unacceptable." Now THAT is bull**** my friend!

A wonderful example of only seeing what you want to see yes? THIRD PARTY ENGINEERING REPORT. Pay attention next time. there's a huge difference between an organized empirical engineering report, and a guy with a bandsaw, Apparently we both see that dont we?
I wont apologize cause you got a little butt-hurt,but i mean what i say, you'll get over it.

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative oil Filters for the SW   Alternative oil Filters for the SW I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 10, 2011 1:36 am

"Hi Yo" wrote:
We don't need no stinking reports! We got Grinsel! :lol!:

Ha Ha! you mean obi-john!
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