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thomphoto Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 188 Age : 87 Location : Owensboro, Kentucky Points : 5890 Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Help, seat won't unlatch Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:43 pm | |
| Put the swing in the shed a couple of weeks ago, and the seat was working fine. Today I went out to hook up the battery tender, and lo and behold, the seat would not unlatch. Anybody have any suggestions of how to get into the latch works if you can't get the seat open? |
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The Scootist Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 693 Age : 67 Location : Loveland, Colorado Points : 6465 Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:48 pm | |
| Thom: Try pushing down on the middle of the seat while you turn the key. This worked for me when I had crammed too much stuff under the seat. |
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thomphoto Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 188 Age : 87 Location : Owensboro, Kentucky Points : 5890 Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:38 pm | |
| Doesn't work. I think something broke about the latch system. I just can't figure out how to get into it to see what's going on. Thanks for the response tho. Wendell |
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DennisB Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2778 Age : 74 Location : NE Oklahoma Points : 9110 Registration date : 2008-12-28
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:18 pm | |
| Give this a try. Remove the small cover under the rear lights, just 2 screws. Then remove the 1 small screw at the bottom edge of the left side cover. Now carefully pull straight out at the bottom of the left cover just enough to get your arm inside the to feel what's going on. You can pull the cable end and un-latch the seat if needed at this point. The spring clips, buy the left turn signal, might pop out while you have your arm under the cover...it will pop back in when you get done.
I hope this helps |
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thomphoto Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 188 Age : 87 Location : Owensboro, Kentucky Points : 5890 Registration date : 2009-06-11
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:15 am | |
| Thanks Dennis, I'l give that a try as soon as it warms up a little here. |
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Skippy Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 299 Age : 57 Location : Exeter. Devon. Points : 5579 Registration date : 2010-08-18
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:25 am | |
| Before going in to have a scooby at the lock mechanisum, have a look at the Microfische on Ron Ayers website - if nothing else it will give you an insight into how it all works.
It sounds to me like the bowden cable that runs from the lock fitting on the left hand rear panel to the rear lock point has broken/come adrift. There is a secondanry cable that then runs from the lock at the back of the bike to the other locking point under the seat center. If the first cable has gone neither lock will open , if its the secondary then only the rear lock will open - either way you're still a bit stuffed!
I must admit when I was fitting a new spring to the mechanisum a week or so ago when I had the opposite problem (see earlier thread) I did think that having cables to operate such an important part was a bit of a liability!
In the interests of wanting to know exactly what to do in the event of this problem arising for me - I'm gonna have a go at opening the seat without using the key; as if the cable had broken. I hope Honda considered this problem when building the bike. Before I set to, I'm going to check with my dealer friend in case Honda have published anything.
Later chaps. |
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rogerscoot Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 73 Location : Brinsley, UK Points : 5161 Registration date : 2011-01-05
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:16 pm | |
| I once locked myself out...put my jacket with keys under the seat and locked it.....Anyway, removed the back cover, poked my arm up under the left hand side and just pulled down on the middle of the cable and it released the lock. Now I always carry spare set of keys in my back pocket. |
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Skippy Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 299 Age : 57 Location : Exeter. Devon. Points : 5579 Registration date : 2010-08-18
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:20 am | |
| Where there is a will there is a way!! |
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 151 Age : 46 Location : Germany Points : 5305 Registration date : 2010-11-20
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:16 am | |
| - Skippy wrote:
- Before going in to have a scooby at the lock mechanisum, have a look at the Microfische on Ron Ayers website - if nothing else it will give you an insight into how it all works.
Can you tell me which one is the correct one? In Year 2001 is no 600ccm scooter and in 2003 it begans with FSC600A and FSC600D. I thought Silver Wing is a FSJ600 but FSC600 seems to be the Silver Wing. And what is the difference between the A and D? |
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joncallihan Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1025 Age : 86 Location : Lafayette, Colorado, USA Points : 6944 Registration date : 2009-02-16
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:17 pm | |
| Both FSJ and FSC are the 600 Silverwing scooter. A is ABS, D is not ABS.
FSJ is non-USA (Japan, Europe, etc). FSC is USA. The only significant difference that I know of is the inclusion of a power outlet in the left side glove box in the FSJ models.
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 151 Age : 46 Location : Germany Points : 5305 Registration date : 2010-11-20
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:58 am | |
| Thx. And if i'm correct, the first facelift was in 2004/2005 so that the 2003 FSC600D will fit to my 2001 FSJ600 without ABS except the missing power outlet? |
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joncallihan Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1025 Age : 86 Location : Lafayette, Colorado, USA Points : 6944 Registration date : 2009-02-16
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:28 am | |
| To the best of my knowledge, yes. |
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Skippy Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 299 Age : 57 Location : Exeter. Devon. Points : 5579 Registration date : 2010-08-18
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:51 am | |
| Here in the UK the model designation is FJS 600 - thats what is says on the front of my owners manual.
In fact just to muddy the waters it actually say 'Honda FJS 600 A/D Silverwing', |
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BlackFly Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 151 Age : 46 Location : Germany Points : 5305 Registration date : 2010-11-20
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:20 pm | |
| I think UK could be possibly belongs to Europe also if they are driving on the wrong side On the front cover of my manual it is called FJS600 without a letter. But i think in 2001 they are no ABS available... |
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"Hi Yo" Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2940 Age : 75 Location : Winnsboro, Texas, U.S.A. Points : 8570 Registration date : 2010-02-17
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:43 pm | |
| Bump for SCTLVR. DennisB seems to have a way to get in well described. I hope this helps and your keys are inside. |
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SCTLVR Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 186 Location : Fairfield, CA Points : 4750 Registration date : 2012-06-27
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:05 am | |
| Hi Yo, found my keys in my riding jacket this morning (red-faced embarrasment here). |
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2392 Age : 72 Location : Portland, UK Points : 8160 Registration date : 2009-07-26
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"Hi Yo" Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2940 Age : 75 Location : Winnsboro, Texas, U.S.A. Points : 8570 Registration date : 2010-02-17
| Subject: Re: Help, seat won't unlatch Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:42 pm | |
| - SCTLVR wrote:
- Hi Yo, found my keys in my riding jacket this morning (red-faced embarrasment here).
Glad you found them, but it's nice there is a way to access the storage area, |
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