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PostSubject: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 8:02 am

Has anyone had to replace the small shock that lifts the seat to get to the underseat compartment? Mine no longer holds the seat up and it's a pain. Thanks Dan
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 8:22 am

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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 8:35 am

ridr44,

What year is your bike? Ours are 2005's and the strut is holding up well.

We typically leave them fully open in our garage when parked.
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 10:18 am

I have an 02, and i only have it 1.5 years and it never worked..
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 10:20 am

I had an 02 previously from new and I thought the lifting shock was always rather weak
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PostSubject: shock   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 1:22 pm

If the seat is stock---then shock is done. Get new one from Honda or piece of wood.If seat is not stock and or heavy backrest installed you probably have exceeded stock design capability....and shock cannot support extra weight.


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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 1:25 pm

Well the link I provide to a post Bill made for a replacement Seat Strut will work just fine for a replacement or for a heavy seat:

https://www.silverwing600.com/silver-wing-accessories-modifications-f5/stronger-seat-strut-replacement-t2058.htm#17889

John is right a stick will work just fine or use the measurements Bill provides in the post to find another replacement.
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 6:23 pm

I also have a 2002 when I added the Back rest Extension the piston would not hold the seat up I replaced it with a new stock piston works fine now I also keep it open when in the garage
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/products/357176-honda-83590-mct-003-hard-parts-damper-opener
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 6:42 pm

I have an acquaintance that rides a 400cc Suzuki Burgman. He was annoyed at the under seat shock and removed it entirely and took an old broom handle and cut it to length so as to make a prop rod to hold the seat up when needed. Last I talked to him, he was very satisfied with this option because it solved the problem of the bad shock, solved the problem of having to duck under the seat to get in there and also was very cost effective.

I'm not saying this idea is for everyone, but it certainly made him happy.
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 7:50 pm

I'm about to buy a 2006 Silverwing with a bad seat lifter... and I was told to make sure the seat was closed and latched all the way because otherwise the light will stay on and drain the battery....

I think I will get a heavy duty office paperclip or similar clamp and stick it on the silver part of the piston when I need it to stay up. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 8:06 pm

Ishkatan wrote:
I'm about to buy a 2006 Silverwing with a bad seat lifter... and I was told to make sure the seat was closed and latched all the way because otherwise the light will stay on and drain the battery....

Do like most and just remove the bulb from the light. It's pretty useless anyway and you'll eliminate the biggest cause of a dead battery.
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 16, 2010 9:59 pm

LOL, I had that in the back of my mind. or put it on a manual switch in case I need it at night.
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 8:06 am

As mentioned, many folks have had some issue with the damper giving out, or being weak. You can fix it by going the stick/prop route, the heavy duty replacement route (mentioned early in the thread) or just by a replacement damper. The OEM part is about $28.

http://www.ronayers.com/Search/N/687/PartNumber/83590-MCT-003/Source/HO

Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 8:15 am

I took out the bulb and use something similar to this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolson-Tools-60702-Magnetic-Lamp/dp/B001B4PINI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289999537&sr=8-1

Mine has just three big bulbs - when I need it I stick it on the metal plate which is part of the Utopia Backrest.
Works a treat!

I also made a removeable prop out of two different diameter aluminium tubes and a length of bungee-cord so it's sort-of telescopic - it works a treat, too!
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 12:44 pm

Or you can superglue the strut and use it as a prop
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 17, 2010 2:05 pm

Thank you to all. I have detached the strut and I am going with the piece of wood, and I truly love it. It is a great improvement to be able to open the seat all the way without having to bend my head to see inside. I recommend it to everyone. Actually the strut was a poor design by Honda. But as usual...you guys are great and I really appreciate all your advice!! dan
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 12, 2012 5:31 pm

Have you actually thought of taking your strut to Autozone? I did it for my 07 Burgman 400 and got a stronger replacement.
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 30, 2012 3:17 pm

My strut was hit & miss from the first time I opened the seat. (2002 new to me in 2011) At first, I used a piece pvc cut in half lengthwise. About 4"s ,it would lay against the strut extension & catch on the strut tube holding up the seat.It worked well enough but wasn't always easy to find as my tub is usually cluttered with stuff. #2 fix was a 4" piece of 1/2" emt (electrical metal tubing) with slot cut lengthwise. The 1/2" ID allowed the tube to slide over the strut yet naturally fell against the extension when fully opened causing it to catch on the strut when the seat is released. The only issue was the metal on metal rattling down the road. My 3rd and final solution was substituting 1/2 pvc (plastic tubing) for emt and it works great. It only latches when the seat is lifted fully. Releasing just involves realigning the tube around the strut and lowering the seat.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Phred501/IMG_1789.jpg

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Phred501/IMG_1786.jpg
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeSun Sep 30, 2012 5:36 pm

What a neat solution Smile
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PostSubject: Re: seat lifting shock thing   seat lifting shock thing I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 01, 2012 5:45 am

Simple is always best. Well done.
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