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PostSubject: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 6:44 am

Any ideas or thoughts?
Love yours. D
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 6:53 am

Old Design, was not selling in many markets, expensive----smaller displacement was where the market is/was.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 7:02 am

Not noisy, not cool, not in.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 7:03 am

So that, like the PC800, it could become a cult bike.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 7:37 am

Sadly America (and Europe to a lesser degree) was not ready for a "touring scooter". Plus as was stated above the price was way out of line. Egad the MSRP on my 2012 was $9270 USD. There were a lot of bikes with bigger displacement for less money.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 7:44 am

Whaddya think Glenn, maybe a “touring class” scooter?
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 7:52 am

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
Whaddya think Glenn, maybe a “touring class” scooter?

I could second that! I really love the touring concept, in fact my Silver Wing has been used many times for multi-day tours. Usually 1000-2000 mile trips and it performs wonderfully, for one-up.

Guess I (and a few on here) were the only ones willing to tour on a scooter rather than an H-D. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 9:38 am

Adding: I bought 2 new Silverwings---2009 and leftover 2013---riding them each out to 50,000 miles. OK, would be nice if they had 50,000 drive belts. Never warranty claim---ABS trouble on 2013---lite stuck on---local Homda shop fixed, probably related to pick up ring.

I added little or no junk,, seat fine, Givi rack and box, and of course Givi Adjustable Windshield replacing the crappy stock shield.

I like scooter touring, Helix favorite for that---bikes had everything including new Harley factory sidecar outfit on down over the years

The reason there are so many low mileage SilverWings around today----not many really riding, just talking again over the years----Only defects I learned in silverwing---heavy/a little top heavy/rear wheel removal pain/brittle plastic----15,000 mil belt changes=pain/cost. I think performance fine....it is a scooter
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 9:41 am

I don't think it had anything to do with any country not being ready for a touring scooter. When the FJS Silver Wing finally disappeared from the Honda UK range in 2016, the FJS Silver Wing was dated and basically hadn't changed in appearance since it's launch in 2001. It also gained a thirsty reputation based on it's first magazine reviews that stuck, and was regarded as an old man's bike/scooter so it never sold in great numbers.

Then ever stringent Euro emission regulations for new vehicles caught up with the Silver Wing and it's days were numbered. The same regulations also scuppered the also dated Burgman 650.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 10:09 am

Plus Honda rationalised its motorcycle and scooter range around the NC 700/750 with the Integra.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 12:51 pm

The PC800 yes they pop up for sale now and again and yes I would put one on my list and all that storage!
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 2:14 pm

I think the range rationalisation is closer to the mark. It's difficult lt to justify the tooling up for a single model these days, the future is modular design that can be used across a series of different bikes / vehicles.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 6:23 pm

When Honda brought out motorcycle fitted with the DCT transmission, over here it meant UK riders with Auto Only Licences who'd previously been limited to twist n' go scooters now could ride the Honda NC700 Integra. That curious looking hybrid motorcycle scooter that replaced the discontinued Silver Wing in the UK and Europe.

I remember from old forum posts at the time, the Integra originally scared off quite a few twist n' go riders because it had open chain drive, and unless they were ex-bikers they knew nothing about chain adjustment and lubrication.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 6:53 pm

2002-2013 is a very long production run for any vehicle. New cars-trucks updated every 4-5 years anymore. Not many huge changes over the long run as sales fell off it's over. I bought a 2013 SW in 2015 deeply discounted a steal for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 7:11 pm

I've also looked at the NC750X(DCT) over here in the US, I was actually in the market for a 2021 model, but was delayed and the SW came along, etc. I tested a 2018 model and it was excellent, only drawbacks IMO was the chain drive and limited storage room.  If it had a belt drive, it would be in my garage today. 

 IMO opinion the SW is a great scooter design overall is just dated, from the standpoint of being a mechanic/tinkerer I love the mostly conventional scooter drivetrain and ease of maintenance, some of these new scooters require diagnostic computers, etc. The SW has built in test/diagnose system, lot more simple. $$$. and parts are cheaper than other brands IME, was not to like ??
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeWed May 05, 2021 8:32 pm

I've also liked the NC750 DTC or not but low reving engine and lack of power a short coming. Fuel efficient yes but.? Honda has been refining DTC and early one had some issues. Chain will last a bit longer than SW belt if maintained but the mess and adjustments.

If I bought a clutch bike it would be a Suzuki SV650 much more power and a good bike. Suzuki parts are expensive not sure why?

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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeThu May 06, 2021 5:20 am

DTC? scratch Don't you mean DCT, Dual Clutch Transmission.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeThu May 06, 2021 7:11 am

Dyslexic Transmission Control possibly?
As someone with mild dyslexia (which I blame on the ITA thing), I can say these things. I thought I'd better get that in before anyone gets snowflake about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeThu May 06, 2021 9:01 am

DCT is just another three letter acronym like ABS, how difficult is it to get it right? The ITA acronym that you mention I haven't a clue, so I had a Search and the list runs into hundreds.

So rather than plod through the list I asked Mrs M who knows about these things, and she says ITA stands for Initial Teaching Alphabet. A method used to teach children in British schools in the Sixties and no longer used.

You learn something new every day. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeThu May 06, 2021 6:03 pm

Nobody's perfect you knew what I meant to say. DTC DCT big deal except for you.

ITA Idiot Typing Again.
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PostSubject: Re: Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013?   Why was the Silverwing discontinued in 2013? I_icon_minitimeThu May 06, 2021 6:30 pm

Mech 1 twa wrote:
Nobody's perfect you knew what I meant to say. DTC  DCT big deal except for you.

ITA  Idiot Typing Again.  
Amen!
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