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PostSubject: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 23, 2021 10:57 am

hi everyone, just put new belt and 24gr dr pulley silders on my 2009 swing,and now have a bit of a do light for v belt comes on after awhile and when i go 140km/h the revs drop very fast down to 5000 from7ooo like fast not controled as winding off throtle any one know whats i done wrong thank guys
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PostSubject: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 23, 2021 11:51 am

SORRY missed bike done 60000 km belt last changed at 30000km new belt on Img_2010
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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 23, 2021 12:27 pm

You may need just to reset the v-belt dash light. I believe it comes on after x kms. to remind you of the belt change service interval? Perhaps someone can verify this.

I cannot help you with the drop in rpms. I assume the scooter slows down too with the drop from 7,000 to 5,000 rpms?
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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeTue Feb 23, 2021 1:00 pm

The “V” light automatically comes ON at 16000 mile (20,000km) intervals, or at that same interval after the “V” light has been reset. However it can also come ON if the rpms exceed the parameters the ECM expects for the rear wheel speed.

Since you’ve installed 24gm Dr Pulley sliders it is not uncommon for that rpm/wheel rpm to exceed the ECM parameters and the “V” light to come ON.

I’m at a loss to explain the sudden rpm drop. Best suggestion I have is to pull the Drive Pulley and check whether one of the sliders may have flipped. If all appears to be okay then reassemble everything and test run (with belt case removed) to see whether the Driven Pulley is expanding and contracting properly. Maybe the DP is hanging up and not closing properly.

While you’re there check that Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) wire didn’t get pinched in the belt case when it was last reassembled.

Once you’ve sorted all that out you can reset the “V” light.
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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 24, 2021 4:48 am

+1 for what is said above.
Light weights and the V light are frequent acquaintances, there is nothing wrong with that, but check the weights are installed right.
Running up to 7k rpm when accelerating hard to 140kmh (85mph) is about right and once you ease off the throttle to cruise at that speed the revs will drop a little, but down to 5k seems a lot.
When you have it apart again pull the clutch off, there is a possibility that it is slipping. The clutch blocks might be worn or they might just need stripping and cleaning - it tends to get messy in the clutch and everything is supposed to move freely.
I've gone through the clutch overhaul myself this winter and it has made a huge difference, give me a shout if you need any advice.
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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 24, 2021 5:57 pm

It sounds to me like something is trying to catch up with something else. When I changed from the standard 28g rollers to 26g rollers I noticed, naturally, a slight lag in top end acceleration but it quickly caught up with itself and got on with the job. It also gave me a 500rpm increase at 70mph 'in the cruise', with pillion, but I can live with that.

24g rollers sound a bit too light for me. In any case, give the whole left-side drive train a lookover, you might be surprised at how much 'gunk' can gather itself together in there and cause minor problems.

There is plenty of advice available on this forum to help.



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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 25, 2021 5:57 am

A good if not fuzzy indication of high speed/revs
https://youtu.be/TT3Splixgig
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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 25, 2021 2:34 pm

I have 24gm DP sliders installed on my 2013 swing for six years now. I have never got the "V" light come on yet and I am still riding with the original belt at 17,800 miles. Still waiting for the "V" light. I changed my 2004 trike swing to 21gm DP sliders about 18 months ago. No "V" light on it still. I don't baby my bikes, but I don't race it either.
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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 27, 2021 3:26 am

Daft question Easyrider, but does your V light work? It should have come on at 16K regardless of anything else.
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PostSubject: Re: new belt on   new belt on I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 28, 2021 12:18 am

Steve_h80,

Had to go out to my swing to check. All five bulbs light up when the ignition is first turned then the FI & V lights go off. The V light is between the high beam and FI light. Unless the Honda bike center reset it when I had the stator replaced under warranty. Maybe it resets when the battery is disconnected? I've had it in for annual safety check at the same dealership. I'll update the forum if and when the V light does come on. I will replace the belt at 20k and force a reset. Maybe I'll inspect it sometime this week.
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