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PostSubject: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2020 8:24 pm

Hi all excited to be here. I just bought a 2003 Swing 600 . Been sitting won’t start getting a new battery draining gas as we speak . Any and all advice would be great! Bike has 10500 miles on it is all
Thanks again. Look forward to meeting everyone
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2020 11:48 pm

Hello Ray. Welcome to the forum.

After you’ve drained all that stale fuel be sure to put an entire bottle of Chevron Techron or SeaFoam in the tank before you refill the tank with fuel. At that age and with that few miles chances are there’s a lot of varnish and gunk deposits in the tank and fuel system and the fuel gauge won’t be working properly.
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 05, 2020 11:52 pm

Awesome great advice is one better then the other I think I have a bottle of each
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 8:54 am

Radtad wrote:
Awesome great advice is one better then the other I think I have a bottle of each

FWIW, I’d start with SeaFoam. It has a higher percentage of Naphtha. But also expect smoke because all of these fuel treatment additives also contain diesel fuel/kerosine/pale oil. Save the Techron for the second treatment.


https://www.silverwing600.com/t11795-techron-redex-redline-seafoam?highlight=Techron#120343
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 9:20 am

Great I’ll do that thanks for your help I appreciate it
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 9:28 am

Congrats and welcome aboard the board Ray. Lots of knowledge on this site. The "search" function is your first and best friend. Then there are the rest of us. thumbs up
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 8:54 pm

Hi Radtad,

Welcome on the site... Like you can see there is alot of helpfull persons here. Tim got it right with seafoam....

Your welcome home anytime !
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 9:43 pm

Thanks Micheal I just did sea foam and 95 octane gas . Won’t start on it own runs briefly on ether then dies of course. I don’t hear the fuel pump kicking on thinking it might have gone south? Pullin plugs next
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 9:44 pm

Has brand new battery as well
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 9:53 pm

Last year I bought a 2005 who was stop for 5 years. Had to change the fuel pump but wait don't make my mistake. I should wait for the seafoam to make his action. The pump was stock in varnish. I undo it to try to clean it and I finaly broke it... (****)  Bought a new one and as soon I install it on the SW, it started like if it had stop a couple hours earlyer...

These motor are built to last...

So wait longer to let seafoam make his work.... be patient...  If it started it will make his job... wait ... take  a break ..... Sleep

Michel
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06, 2020 10:48 pm

Hi Radtad, When I got my 08 SWing from my sister in FL it had been sitting for over two years and I trailered it back to MN. The battery was totally dead and the gas didn't smell too bad but not new. I hooked up my jumper cables without starting my pickup just to mainly check all the lights and dash gauges. It had 1/2 a tank of gas and after looking over the lights etc. I figured what the heck and gave the starter a try. It turned over about 3 times and popped right off and didn't smoke or misfire. Once I got a new battery for it I dumped a whole can of Seafoam and rode it to the gas station and filled it up and took it for a spin around town. Since then I've had no problems with it.
I would follow Tim's comments too. He knows a whole lot more than I do about things like this.
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2020 1:45 am

Thanks guys I will give more time that’s good advice for sure it looks like a pain to take it out
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2020 7:36 am

Hi Radtad,
Welcome from Nova Scotia, the sticky out part of Canada on the East coast.

Be sure to replace the tires too.  If original they likely have fine cracks in the side walls and yet lots of tread left (maybe).

Mike
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2020 2:43 pm

I would also change the oil, filter, rear end oil, brake fluid, and anti freeze. Good luck and enjoy your new to you Swing!I
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07, 2020 6:46 pm

Thanks guys have all that on the list appreciate the heads up thank you again
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 5:09 pm

Well here is what I have how do you clean it up or do I bite the bullet and buy complete new one ?
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 5:57 pm

That's very bad replace entire pump assy.   How much rust is in the rest of tank that also needs to be cleaned.??  There are kits to clean tank ACID.  I've used these before and they will remove the rust.  Just use the Acid and not the coating stuff.  Something like this


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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 6:06 pm

Awesome thank you the tank surprised me it’s not nearly as bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 7:29 pm

I'd still clean out all the rust and start fresh. Rust is worse at top of tank and hard to see inspect it carefully. If you decide to clean it follow the instructions the acid is nasty be careful using it.

There are several similar products for sale to clean the rust. Research it.
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 7:34 pm

I usually use a apple cider vinegar soak for two days then rinse. And neutralize with baking soda and distilled water. Works great
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 7:42 pm

Sounds good vinegar has some bite to it last rinse with some rubbing alcohol to remove the water.
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 7:47 pm

Great idea with the rubbing alcohol . New pump ordered and on the way OMG they are not cheap lol
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 8:04 pm

Shop around prices vary looks like over $400 for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Hi From Colorado    Hi From Colorado  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08, 2020 9:33 pm

Ordered from BikeBandit for 358. 00 and free shipping plus picked up a new drive belt, air filter , and plugs since I was already ordering
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