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PostSubject: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 8:59 am

Well, here we are, I live in England, on the South Coast on a proper Island called Hayling Island, and commute quite a bit. The island is the next one along from Portsmpouth, where our Navy keeps it's few remaining rowing boats...

So why join a US forum? Well I can probably guarantee that you lot do more than just commuting miles, I reckon on about 160 a day on average. And I'd like to know the range, the comfort factor, how long they go for, that kind of thing.

And why a Silverwing?

I own and ride two VFR 800's, a 2007 Vtec model and a 2015 F series model. But I had a major cancer op last year, and there have been a few side effects, as in my left hand doen't have the grip it once had, so when I'm in London traffic and find myself needing to use the clutch a lot, I soon get into trouble.

So why don't I get myself a Silver wing? OK it's not a "proper" bike in the sense that I probably won't ever get a knee down (unless I fall off) but it IS a Honda.

And the next obvious thing to do, before I go out and purchase one is... Join the forum and see what most people post about them, because we all know that forums hardly ever get messages saying how great the things are, they are usually used to complain about some widget, gizmo, wear point etc. So in that way I can see if they are built to Honda standards before I commit.

See. I'm logical.

So here's hoping there's nothing to worry about, and here's also hoping I will find me a "guddun".
Thanks for inviting me along!

Trevor
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 9:08 am

Smile Hello & Welcome bud Smile

Comfort level, I rode mine from Telford to Tonbridge several times a year, only ever stopping for fuel, yep it's all day long comfortable Smile

Edit: As to handling ..........

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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 9:50 am

Hello, Lost it. Thank you for your introduction. Welcome to the forum.

Silverwings are pretty much bullet proof. The most frequent mechanical "issue" would be replacing the belt. And that is a DIY 45 minute job --well, maybe 90 min - 2 hrs the first time.

Commuting? That seems to be a UK thing. Over here we're quite happily addicted to cars and cheap fuel. Two wheels are sport/leisure. There have been several occasions when I've done 1,000 mile days or 3,000 mile, one week, tours. Yeah, bullet proof.

Congratulations on your cancer recovery.

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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 10:12 am

I have enjoyed my 2012 Silverwing so much that when I found myself no longer able to ride with two wheels (due to health), I turned her into a Trike. Although I have had a problem recently with my new chain drive, it turns out, it was my fault all along. So, The Swing (IMO) is the best bike on the road overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 11:34 am



welcome welcome welcome



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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 12:23 pm

Hi Trevor,

Test ride the new Honda for a 300 as well.

Hell of a lot lighter and manageable, don’t be put off by the smaller engine, try it.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 12:24 pm

Sorry should have said NSS 300 Forza!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2019 4:47 pm

As your visiting curmudgeon, I've noticed that scooters like the Silver Wing (and the new Forza) are never considered 'proper bikes' by the vast majority of bike riders when they're in the best of health.  Of course that attitude changes when they're having problems with dodgy wrists, knees, backs or whatever and are having trouble playing throttle jockey.

Then all of a sudden the maxi scooters that were once the subject of sneers and sarcasm don't seem like a bad idea at all.

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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2019 2:04 am

Welcome Trevor
If you do get a Swing, you will not be disappointed mate. Iv'e had big bikes in the past, currently I have a Scomadi TL200 & an old Vespa PX, rode the scomadi to Belgium last year with some mates (2 of which were on their Swing's) they looked so bloody comfy, so I bought one of them off my mate, best decision I made, it's got the poke when you need it & very stable at low speeds. Going again to Ypres, Belgium again this year and yes....I will be the comfy one  Wink  . Go on, you know you want one, best of luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2019 5:35 am

Well Mr "Meldrew" I guess there's always one grump. I've truth been using Chinese scooters for years for commuting short distances, usually stinkwheel type so I could play with them. My wife rides a Dylan too. So you got that wrong. I've never considered a maxi scoot because when I bought my first VFR in 1986, no-one made maxi scoots.
So now, when I am considering it because I've had bowel cancer twice and am not as fit as I was, people such as you think it's worth a snide comment?
Maybe this forum isn't quite as friendly as I thought.

But anyway. I bought the first one I rode.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2019 6:50 am

Lost it wrote:
Well Mr "Meldrew" I guess there's always one grump. I've truth been using Chinese scooters for years for commuting short distances, usually stinkwheel type so I could play with them. My wife rides a Dylan too. So you got that wrong. I've never considered a maxi scoot because when I bought my first VFR in 1986, no-one made maxi scoots.
So now, when I am considering it because I've had bowel cancer twice and am not as fit as I was, people such as you think it's worth a snide comment?
Maybe this forum isn't quite as friendly as I thought.

But anyway. I bought the first one I rode.


Please, don't let the comments of a couple on this forum turn you away.....take time to learn of all the other wonderful members we have, they out way the few.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2019 8:09 am

Hi, Trev, Welcome to the site. I take it you are still contemplating whether its going to be a SWing or some other scooter. Keep in mind that the SWing is a 600 pounder, and when she wants to go there's no holding her back; speed-wise and standing still. With a weak left hand, I'd say you have quite a beast on your hands.
We have gotten used to our scoots and find no issues but if you are starting out, then be aware. There are lighter and just as enjoyable and capable lighter rides that would not tax you as much. The 300 cc Honda Forza is one among many. I bet it would make a great commuter.

Jay.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2019 9:37 am

Welcome Trevor. Thank you Pastor Ron. Paul
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2019 2:36 pm

Today while a couple of you gents were getting your knickers in a twist about yesterday's post, this grump had better things to do than play on here.

I hired a big wheel scooter for the day here in Sorrento and rode along the slow and very dodgy Amalfi Coast road to Amalfi. Parked up, had a paper cone full of anchovies and other small fried fish, a gelato, and rode back again to the much more scenic and upscale resort of Positano. There I met up with Mrs M who was on an Amalfi Coast boat trip, had a long non-alcoholic cocktail and some cake in a very nice hotel up above the town. Then after she got back on the boat, I rode back to Sorrento, handed the scooter back and got the free shuttle bus back up to our hotel, arriving back about a hour later than Mrs M.

Can't say I liked riding in normal jacket and jeans, wearing an open face helmet with no visor like the locals, and not wearing gloves really irked me. But once I got into the swing of it, I enjoyed the day as a one off experience.
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Positano is a glorious little place, enjoyed a nice gin and tonic in Sorrento.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2019 1:35 am

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
Hello, Lost it. Thank you for your introduction. Welcome to the forum.

Silverwings are pretty much bullet proof. The most frequent mechanical "issue" would be replacing the belt. And that is a DIY 45 minute job --well, maybe 90 min - 2 hrs the first time.

Commuting? That seems to be a UK thing. Over here we're quite happily addicted to cars and cheap fuel. Two wheels are sport/leisure. There have been several occasions when I've done 1,000 mile days or 3,000 mile, one week, tours. Yeah, bullet proof.

Congratulations on your cancer recovery.

Tim
Well, the commuting thing... Where I live, now on the south coast of England rather than my place of birth up in God's country, Yorkshire, everywhere is "North" so to speak, and we have access here to the A3, a road that takes you to the centre of London (If you like History, the A roads were pretty much installed by Romans, they were effectively "Straight routes" from the capital that became London to all the main Roman settlements) and then he have the gyratory parking bay that is the M25 under certain circumstances.
And we have cycle and Bus lanes in central London that are allowed to be used by bikes. My "Vehicle Logbook" says "Bicycle" so I use the bike lanes too.
And as we are allowed to filter here (I think you call it Spitting in the US) and as most motorists expect you to be filtering, the two wheel device is ideal.

I used to commute over a thousand miles a week, that's how much I enjoyed two wheels, and I have been told twice now by my surgeon and my GP that I will never have the stamina or the core strength to hold a bike up after my bowel cancer operations.

Now I don't really have a bowel, and have been that way for a year more or less, it's just been a matter of training my body to do what I want it to do, not me having to do what it wants to do, if you get my drift.

So I set myself targets, and getting back on the VFR was the last one. But my left hand is suffering, and I don't wish to give up and live off benefits, or even stop working, I'm only 62, lots to do yet. If I can survive 13 years down a coal mine, numerous years building tunnels, riding through the centre of London in rush hour, c is nothing...

I'm not "cured", as the c found it's way into my lymphatic system, I won't ever be clear, but I won't go down wimpering either. It's not the Yorkshire way.

So that's pretty much why I came to this decision, I have ordered parts to make the clutch easier on the VFR, as a last ditch.

And I have bought myself a Silver Wing. I tried one of those 300cc Honda things, and it just felt too light? Does that make sense?
Whereas the Silver Wing feels like it's made of the same stuff as my VFR. Solid, stable, I need to adapt to the bars being so close, and the different seating but that will come.

So: I bought a Y plated (That would be 2001) FJS, three owners from new Silver Wing, non ABS, with a huge pile of receipts for work done, but only 50,000 miles on it. The hand brake doesn't work, I think just about every panel has a mark on it, as it's lived in London for most of it's life it won't be used to high speed commuting, so I'll take it steady.
It's blue and it will no doubt keep me busy for days making it nice again. Very smooth, just had a new drive belt (not sure what make, but I'll get one anyway just to be safe) and the strut to hold the seat up is missing, or the bracket is anyway. That's an easy fix. I've already fixed the loose exhaust and the loose front panel, it needs a front mudguard quite desperately, I may need to order new...
I have a service kit coming too. I'll work through it bit by bit, I used to repair Fibreglass cars for a living so the bodywork is just mess and time, the rest is nuts and bolts. I'll make a variator tool, that's a nothing job.

It only just fit in my van too... Not as heavy as I thought it was as it turns out, I think most of the weight is in that exhaust can... I'll have to "fix" that.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2019 3:22 am

Trevor
Well done mate on getting the Swing, I would have been shocked if there were no marks on it having come from the "Smoke", enjoy the tinkering on the mods you want to do. I'm out on mine every day, riding round the lanes and A & B roads, having just retired it's Bliss. And just keep tell yourself.........
F**K Off "C" Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2019 4:43 am

Hi bud.

Re' front mudguard, get one for your year model as later ones were a slightly different design & have the mounting points in a different place.
Edit : You may like to shoot a PM to member .. Siataukreg .. he's in Yorkshire & quite often breaks SilverWings & may well have one on his racking.

Re, Handbrake, it's an MoT requirement so needs fixing, parts are common on all model years.  Until it's fixed make sure you park on level ground or with the 'nose' pointing uphill, the wieght of the bike facing downhill can roll it of the lean stand.

Wemoto now stock the Mitsuboshi drive belt (Honda OEM) ....
https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/fjs_600_silverwing_scooter_1/01
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2019 5:06 am

Thanks for all that. I use a Brake lever clamp when I park it anyway as a quick anti theft device, on the rear lever as it's linked brakes. Bike cannot be moved with that on.
I'll send a link to laddo. Re the MOT... You don't actually need a front mudguard for a bike mot... Which is strange.
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PostSubject: Re: Introduction, because it's the right thing to do.   Introduction, because it's the right thing to do. I_icon_minitimeWed May 15, 2019 6:25 am

A belated welcome Trevor you have picked a good site and a good bike.

The " C " beat it back twice myself and your line will carry you further than you can imagine, good luck. <<>>
I'm not "cured", as the c found it's way into my lymphatic system, I won't ever be clear, but I won't go down wimpering either. It's not the Yorkshire way.
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