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PostSubject: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Fri 14 Jul 2017, 15:56

Thoughts on these for replacements?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-H7-Headlight-Bulbs-40W-Light-Bulbs-For-2002-2013-Honda-Silver-Wing-ABS-/172657015223?hash=item283328f9b7:g:gsAAAOSwtGlZCOF3&vxp=mtr

Or would this overdraw the already topped out SWing fun electrical system?
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Fri 14 Jul 2017, 16:14

Actually at 40W draw they will draw less than the original bulbs will. I think your good as long as the lumes are as high as original brightness.
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Fri 14 Jul 2017, 16:37

The electrical systems on the swings are wired to be at full draw all the time and dump all the excess out before the battery through heat, so when you put something drawing less power, it equals more heat. Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Fri 14 Jul 2017, 20:33

There is more to consider then electrical draw, we have 440 watts of alternator power, so we have enough power for additional lighting and heated grips etc.

These will not fit physically, the reflector assembly in the wing is designed to use a standard H7 with the Honda adaptor. This makes the base close to 3/8" thick where the wire retainer clamps it in.
It also uses a different plug spacing (hence the adaptor).

I've tried using these bulbs, and had no success, I decided not to try to retrofit any LED headlights.
I added 10w LED driving lights, and changed to Sylvania LED's for the stop/tail and rear turns.
To load compensate the LED turns on the rear I put in yellow halogens in the front positions.

If you need more forward light, just use the 85w Phillips Powersport bulbs and add the LED driving lights to add side fill lighting.
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Fri 14 Jul 2017, 21:20

The catch is getting the right bulb for the reflector, in our case the same type bulb that came with the bike, LED, .HID all great when matched to their respective reflectors, another consideration the headlight lens itself this plays into the light distribution also
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Sat 15 Jul 2017, 14:16

oldwingguy wrote:
The catch is getting the right bulb for the reflector, in our case the same type bulb that came with the bike, LED, .HID all great when matched to their respective reflectors, another consideration the headlight lens itself this plays into the light distribution also

All the experience here with the LED Head lights has been negative, LED's seem to be OK in other areas of the Fellows bikes, But negative for many reasons in the head light attempts.

I suggest the conventional lamps until something better is devised.

Happy motoring lloyd 193. swing
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Sat 15 Jul 2017, 16:49

If it ain't broke.................
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Mon 17 Jul 2017, 10:47

Thanks for the input fellas, I just wanted a brighter light.

I am grabbing a Phillips Powersport as Sidewinder Pilot mentioned above.
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Mon 17 Jul 2017, 19:01

Osram also make brighter replacements, particularly the "Nightbreaker."
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Mon 17 Jul 2017, 19:55

Please remember one thing with normal incandescent bulb at least, brighter is generally hotter, you don't want warped reflectors.
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Mon 17 Jul 2017, 20:40

Correct, as a generalisation. The halogen Osrams I mentioned are 55watt items per the OEM spec, so shouldn't be a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Mon 17 Jul 2017, 22:41

I ran the 85w bulb in the lowbeam position and a 65w as the highbeam for several months, then switched positions several months ago.
I have had no problem with heat warping or wiring issues in the nearly 2 years/40,000 miles with these bulbs.
However, I would NOT use the 100w or 120w bulbs that can be found if you look really hard...

BTW, my 85w bulb package was labeled "For off-road use only"
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Tue 18 Jul 2017, 01:26

I fitted Osram Nightbreakers and they're very good, but if I wanted LED headlights it would be simpler to trade in the Silver Wing for a more modern design maxi scooter that has partial or full LED lights as OE.
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PostSubject: Re: Would you trust these LED headlights?   Tue 18 Jul 2017, 13:57

Exactly!
Same with HID, even if you cobbled some way to install them with some sort of spacer, the curvature of the reflector is designed for the size of the filament and it's relative placement.
You would likely either have an indistinct patch of light, or the focus would just glare at oncoming traffic.

..........However, If one where really, really hell bent on LED upfront, you could cut away the back of the reflector assembly and imagineer a mount for a big LED driving light to shine through the front lens.

Me...
I'll just stick with the originally engineered, universally available and easily replicable halogen.
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