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lenseonlife
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PostSubject: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 5:22 am

Hi,

New to this forum. have experienced some intermittent wobble from rear and recently decided to start investigating. With bike on center stand, I can 'wobble' the rear wheel - it is not rock steady at all.

Removed the rear wheel and all bearings look OK. Put the wheel back onto the splines and there is a bit of play - and that is the same play that I get when full reassembled. As I don't have any other Silver Wings to compare with (they are as rare as hens teeth here in Ireland) can someone tell me if they experience the same 'play' with the rear wheel or are my splines knackered?

Oliver
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 6:57 am

Is there any play on the axel where it comes through the housing,any oil leaks, did you measure the dia.of the axle. does the wheel have free side to side play.Look there first . How many miles on your Swing The bearring might need changing.
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 8:55 am

Hi,

Thanks for your suggestions - unfortunately:

All bearings are fine and the axle is solid in its housing. The wheel can move fine laterally.

I was expecting that when the wheel is slotted onto the spines that there should then not be any twisting motion - but there is some and that is not reduced when the full assembly is torqued up :-(
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 3:40 pm

If your taking about forward and backward,there is some free play.
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 4:13 pm

If I sit down behind the bike, with the edge of the tyre in front of me. I can deflect the wheel - left/right a bit. Just wondering if this is the same on other bikes. Other bikes I've had - the wheel could not be deflected at all, it feels wrong.

Oliver
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 5:09 pm

Just tried to move the rear wheel of mine side to side and I cannot detect any play what so ever!
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 7:11 pm

The bearing cant be good If you have side play. Again how many miles on your scooter?
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 7:51 pm

Troubleshooting 15/3 Service Manual
Rear wheel wobbling
.bent rim
.faulty tire
.Axle nut and/or engine mount bolt not tightened properly.
.Loose or worn final gear shaft bearing
.Insufficient tire pressure
.Unbalanced tire and wheel
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 14, 2012 11:00 pm

My 2006 has some play rolling the wheel back and forth but none side to side when on the center stand. I would expect side to side motion to hurt stability. Hope that helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 15, 2012 12:50 pm

Hello All,

Thanks for the great feedback. The mileage is just under 15,000.

Yes, stability can sometimes be a bit hairy - hence the reason that I am now investigating it.

Thanks for the feedback from other SilverWing - nice to know that, at least, I am not chasing a red herring i.e. there should not be any lateral play.

From the list of possibilities - I think it is a worn final gear shaft (although the mileage is very low for that to be the cause). But is is definitely not a bent rim, tyre, balance and the axle nut and engine mounts are OK - just checked them earlier.

Will have a closer look at the final drive on Tuesday when am off work again.

Once again, thanks for everyone's interest and assistance - great knowing that there are other people out there.

Oliver
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 16, 2012 4:12 pm

Hi, I THINK I have found the problem study

Examined the nut used to hold on the wheel, and the threads (at the side nearest the wheel are stripped.

QUESTION: Should there be a collar / spacer between that nut and the wheel bearing (don't have a parts manual to chek it out) because there was not any on my Silverwing. Am hoping, this is/was the problem - if it is, then the only damage was to the nut, the axle seems OK.

Can someone check the parts please?

Oliver

P.S. asked the local (over an hour away) and they were not very helpful as they suggested that I bring the scooter in for them to have a look at it !!!!!

P.P.S. I bought this scooter last year, so this is my first time to examine in in close detail - will know better the next time (assuming I am right about a spacer being missing).
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 16, 2012 4:25 pm

Check # 6 & 7 in the link. You are right on the spacer or spacers being missing.
Hope this helps.

http://www.powersportsplus.com/parts/search/Honda/Scooter/2008/FSC600A+AC/REAR+WHEEL/parts.html
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 16, 2012 4:26 pm

Yes, theres some sort of collar.

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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 17, 2012 12:56 pm

Hi,

Thanks for all the info - have order a Collar and new Nut. Also going to replace the brake pads while I am at it - so off the road for another week but expecting much better stability when I hit the road again.

On a different note - was very surprised and thankful for all your informed opinions and genuine assistance,

See ya all again soon,

Oliver
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PostSubject: Re: Some Play on Rear Wheel   Some Play on Rear Wheel I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 17, 2012 1:04 pm

lenseonlife wrote:

On a different note - was very surprised and thankful for all your informed opinions and genuine assistance

Ha ha, they're all looking to tour Ireland and drop into yours for a cup of tea...

Except me of course Smile
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