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ulflyer
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PostSubject: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:51 pm

Underneath the locking cap are two small phillips screws.
Remove them, lift off the cover, take out the only thing inside which is the metal slilder that you open/close with the key. Now you can use it to open without a key, and if you go to sell it will only take about a minute to replace it.
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:33 pm

Only recommended In a good neighborhood

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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:38 pm

One stupid question coming up.

Why would you want to?

Save time? Question
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:56 pm

So you fill up leaving the keys in the ignition, go inside to pay and some thieving scrote may ride off on it. Park up in a quiet place and some lowlife could steal your petrol, urinate in the tank, wreak havoc with your engine by dropping a few sugar lumps in the tank, set fire to your scooter etc.
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:26 pm

Or you could use a Helix or Elite fuel cap.
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:17 pm

Folks, whether you chose to do it or not is strictly up to you. I've clearly made my choice. It just annoys me to have to diddle with a key and in my 60+ years of riding, mostly without a locking gas cap, I've never wished I had one. It takes about a minute to do if you want too.

Sorta like disabling the kick stand cut off; diff strokes for diff folks. Smile







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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:12 pm

Once again all of us are smarter that one of us. I would have appreciated this tip on my last 3,500 mile trip up the East coast. Howard NWSSC
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:34 am

Having to use the ignition key to unlock the petrol cap means that you have to take the key out of the ignition rather than forgetting and leaving it in when you go to pay at the kiosk. Works for me.
Totally agree with Meldrew's post.

Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:45 am

I bought a keyless gas cap and it saves me fiddling with the key. I have never left my keys in the ignition when leaving the bike (well, not yet anyway!!).

Laurie
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:45 am

What prompted me to mod the cap was, I had just come back from town on the Can Am where I had bought a keyless cap, but it didnt fit. Looking at the keyed one, I just had to take it apart to see what it made of.

And I rarely even take my key out of the ignition unless I'm at a big mall or maybe on a trip out of the area or somesuch. Just depends on what kind of area you happen to be in.
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:29 am

I bought my silver wing used and it had a non-original gas cap with a different key than the ignition. It annoyed me to have to carry 2 keys so I removed the locking piece a few years ago and I'm happy I did. I think if a vandal did see that there is a keyhole he probably wouldn't bother to try to take it off. In any case- who pays cash at the gas station anymore? I don't even get off the bike when i fill up at the gas pump- what is this 1962?

Jesse in Atlanta


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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:31 am

Very few petrol stations have 'pay at the pump' pumps over here in UK. I may not pay by cash but I still have to go into the kiosk and pay by card, basically you are leaving the scooter unattended.

Cheers,
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:38 am

I'll hold my hand up here and say I always pay cash for gas/petrol rather than use a credit or debit card, and it's annoying to go into a petrol station and have to wait for a queue of people to swipe their cards when handing over cash is far quicker. Here in the UK some petrol stations and supermarkets won't switch on the pumps until you have removed your helmet first to reveal your face for security cameras, they'll even tell you over a loudspeaker. That's because of some riders who favour your way of filling up often ride off without paying.

As for the 1962 reference you've lost me there, I was a mere lad of 11 back then with short pants, a snake belt, and a bad haircut... and you weren't even born. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:25 am

For me, I like the keyed cap. I take the key out of it and place them in my pocket while filling up. Since I added a locking cap to my F150, using a keyed cap is second nature. (Course, stuck for the week in Lubbock while my fiancee goes to training and no bike rentals which sucks.)
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:33 am

IIRC the official line in the UK is that you must dismount from two wheelers before filling with gas. It's the 'elf and safety people at work, something to do with fire risks, not that everyonre bothers !
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:40 am

Meldrew wrote:


As for the 1962 reference you've lost me there, I was a mere lad of 11 back then with short pants, a snake belt, and a bad haircut... and you weren't even born.


I basically just meant who uses cash anymore? (didn't realize you were still in the dark ages over there). I go for weeks without carrying cash in my wallet, and out of curiosity what do you do with all the change?
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:46 pm

We exchange the coins for shiny beads from the explorers who make it as far as our backward country !!!!
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:08 pm

I remember cash.

I had some once! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:22 pm

toolboxjesse wrote:
I basically just meant who uses cash anymore? (didn't realize you were still in the dark ages over there). I go for weeks without carrying cash in my wallet, and out of curiosity what do you do with all the change?


You must carry cash living in a country that has a culture of tipping waitresses, bell hops, parking attendants, servers etc.
We Brits are generally tighter than a goblins foreskin and hang on to our change. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:30 pm

Meldrew wrote:
toolboxjesse wrote:
I basically just meant who uses cash anymore? (didn't realize you were still in the dark ages over there). I go for weeks without carrying cash in my wallet, and out of curiosity what do you do with all the change?


You must carry cash living in a country that has a culture of tipping waitresses, bell hops, parking attendants, servers etc.
We Brits are generally tighter than a goblins foreskin and hang on to our change. Wink


You have change!!!! Surprised

If ever I have anything with her Maj's face on it I get robbed!!! (Well SWMBO removes it from my grasp within seconds of hearing the jangle of loose shekels!!) Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:42 pm

Waspie wrote:
I remember cash.

I had some once! Laughing


Me too - then she found out!! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:42 am

it must be difficult to sneak up on people with all of the loose change jangling in your pockets.

J
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:56 am

ulflyer, awesome tip, I wish I was that smart before I spent the $18 on a new cap. I hated my locking gas cap!
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:01 am

bobhrc1 wrote:
ulflyer, awesome tip, I wish I was that smart before I spent the $18 on a new cap. I hated my locking gas cap!


You can spot the non UK riders.

A fuel cap with no lock!!!!

We wouldn't need to put a sign on our bikes;

Free Fuel - Please Steal!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:59 am

I thought you guys had no crime over there- do the cops have guns yet?
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:08 am

toolboxjesse wrote:
I thought you guys had no crime over there- do the cops have guns yet?


Laughing Laughing Laughing Cops - guns - sort of. Not all and not on the streets but they are out there in specialist vehicles. I believe it is easier to get trained armed officers on the streets quickly.

The Tazer has made an appearance too!!! Not forgetting the CS spray.

Don't know if you have the equivalent Stateside, we have 'Special Constables' in reality civilians in uniform with modified powers of arrest and certainly NO weapons.
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:56 am

we call them police auxiliary I think.
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:40 pm

My very first MOD was to remove the locking mechanism from my gas cap. I carry a can of vinegar in my glove box so if anyone ever pisses in my tank I can add the vinegar. I heard there is nothing like a SWing full of piss and vinegar!
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:07 pm

texasswing wrote:
I heard there is nothing like a SWing full of piss and vinegar!

I've got a boss like that!!! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: How to Mod your Gas Cap to Open without a key   Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:10 pm

Winger61 wrote:
texasswing wrote:
I heard there is nothing like a SWing full of piss and vinegar!

I've got a boss like that!!! Sad


Laughing Laughing Laughing
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