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Waspie Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1739 Age: 60 Location: Portland, UK Points: 2906 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:25 am | |
| Finished my long night shift this morning, 12 hours, no sleep in the preceding day either so I am fairly tired. I walk out to the Silver Wing, looking forward to my commute home and bed.
'Wing' is parked in total and complete darkness at the rear of the building I work in so everything is done by feel and touch. Pull in the left brake lever, press the starter - nothing. Lights dim but no start. Did this several times before giving up. Helmet off, gloves off and retire into the office to consider my actions.
Usual experts tell me of their diagnosis, flat battery, loose wire etc. All I want to do is get home and bed 24 plus hours without sleep I am not at my best. Out Honda Assist card and a phone call the Rescue Centre for assistance. Next call to my wife to appraise he I wont be home at usual time.
As promised the Rescue chap arrived on time, he tries to start with same results as me, next he checks battery strength, that's ok too! I am distracted by one of my work colleagues when I hear the sound of a Silver Wing engine. Great - I'll be home within the hour.
What was the problem. As if you haven't already guessed.
Yes! I never checked the kill switch! You would have needed ear protection for the next few minutes. ~Did I swear - just a little.
However! I am quite anal about my procedures and I always put my switches back to there proper place when leaving the bike and car. I distinctly remember using the kill switch to shut down last night, by the same token I also remember putting the kill switch back to it's normal setting.
Now where my 'Wing' is parked up is dark, but it is also the location my smoking buddies use for their hourly intake of nicotine. I can only assume, hate assumptions, that one of them sat on the bike and inadvertently knocked the kill switch.
A big lesson learned. When tired take more time in thinking through simple problems and check ALL switches.
Now that admission written from some one who has recently been accused of being perfect!!
Hope some one as well as me may learn from my simple error. I am grateful it wasn't anything more serious if I am honest with myself.
Hope you all have a better day than the one I have started!! |
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RickV Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 38 Age: 66 Location: MN Points: 588 Registration date: 2010-11-28
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:51 am | |
| I would suggest that most of us have experienced a moment of panic when the gear is back on and the scoot doesn't start - especially when the group you are with is disappearing down the road  - the rush of relief when the kill switch was the problem. In my case I had just picked up my slightly used Aprilia Scarabeo and it the prior two weeks 2 fuses had blown on my driveway and then on the first group ride no fire!!! Been lucky in that no further blown fuses in the last 3 years but a few resets on the kill switch have been required. There is a bit of humor now looking back but not at the time. Thanks for sharing Rick V |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2165 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3063 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:01 am | |
| Hey Doug, not to fret.
We've ALL inadvertently at one time or another freaked when a bike/scooter would't turn over with what seemed like a good battery. After taking a few deep breaths, and checking the kill switch, all was well. |
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tankyuong Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 387 Age: 37 Location: Missouri Points: 1629 Registration date: 2009-07-11
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:44 am | |
| Better the switch than kickstand culprit |
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Old Limey Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 171 Age: 67 Location: BOLTON LANCASHIRE ENGLAND Points: 913 Registration date: 2010-06-09
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:55 am | |
| I once heard some idiot Bikers saying how they thought it was really funny to go along a row of parked bikes and turn all the kill switches on. I wasn't near enough to say anything but, i guess we will never be free of idiots like these.It would have been a real problem for me now as, i just put Handlebar Muffs on for the coming colder weather. |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2868 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:32 pm | |
| Better the switch than kickstand culpritI've done both. Also managed to flick the switch whilst on the move (quite fast) in traffic because of the handlebar muffs. Not funny! _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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robert Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 123 Age: 69 Location: arizona Points: 751 Registration date: 2010-09-19
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:51 pm | |
| I know how you feel Waspie, when I first got my S/Wing, I was also having starting problems, come to find out, I was'nt squeezing the left brake past the second click. Ride Safe...Robert in Az. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2165 Location: Winnipeg Canada Points: 3063 Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:15 pm | |
| | MikeO wrote: | Also managed to flick the switch whilst on the move (quite fast) in traffic because of the handlebar muffs. Not funny! |
When I had my Throttlemeister throttle lock, I also inadvertently and unknowingly brushed the kill switch. I was doing 110 km/hr on the highway at the time. Until I realized that I hit the kill switch, I was at a total loss as to why the engine was not responding to throttle and why I was rapidly losing speed. At that rpm and road speed, the engine is still indirectly connected to the road, so there was significant engine braking. I suggest Swing owners try it once while underway. It won't cause any harm to you or your Swing. That way, if/when it does happen, they'll know what the cause is. |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2868 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:22 pm | |
| Good idea. My excuse is that the heated grips switch was just above the kill switch on the X9. It was a very chilly day and after dark. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1739 Age: 60 Location: Portland, UK Points: 2906 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:43 am | |
| Bit more! On the way home yesterday I noticed a squeaky rattle from the handle bar area I hadn't noticed before. So I decided this morning to have a delve! I noticed immediately the plastics around the handle bars was loose! Strange!!! It, (the centre plastic shroud,) wasn't correctly located under the ignition barrel and I was able to lift it gently away from the ignition barrel mount, plastic was secure everywhere else. So I removed all the plastics, again courtesy of a link on this site. Thank you. http://www.silverwing600.com/t181-i-adjusted-my-handlebars-today#814(Click on JeffR's link to a Pdf document) Replaced all the plastic and ensured it was all firmly relocated correctly. Now, the plastics are solidly held in place. Me-thinks my first thoughts about someone fiddling in the dark may be closer to the truth. |
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MikeO Site Admin

Number of posts: 1724 Age: 62 Location: Western Europe Points: 2868 Registration date: 2009-06-29
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:56 am | |
| Mm. Very suspicious! Glad it's sorted now, Doug. _________________ Mike - Riding on the right - riding for pleasure!
'09 Silverwing 600 - 'The Winged Express' - Delta Blue, ABS, Heated Grips, Givi Airflow Screen, Utopia rider's backrest, Givi pillion backrest & E52 Topbox, Cortech Super Mini Tank Bag as a tunnel-bag, Starcom Digital Comms System.
www.x9ownersclub.co.uk - for all Maxi-Riders who want to RIDE!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Meldrew Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 602 Age: 61 Location: Cumbria, England UK Points: 1164 Registration date: 2010-11-16
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:45 am | |
| I bought a new Kawasaki Z750 twin just after I passed my bike test back in the 1970's, after a few hundred miles it developed a sticking exhaust valve on one cylinder and used to cut out. The dealer gave me a Suzuki GT500 two-stroke twin to ride while they fixed it, it was a really nice bike to ride too. After a couple of weeks, I rode down to the dealers about 40 miles away and picked up the Kawa which had been repaired, rode home and later went off on night shift. The next morning as I was riding home it started cutting out on one cylinder again. Luckily I managed to get to a nearby village and found a telephone box and called the dealer. Two mechanics in a van arrived over a hour later and none too pleased about being called out. They started the bike and it cut out within a few seconds, then they started it and it happened again. Then one of them fiddled about for a few seconds, started the bike and started revving the engine, it didn't cut out, then he went for a short ride on it. He had cured the fault by switching the petrol tap to reserve,  , needless to say I was cringing with embarrassment. If the village cafe had been open I'd have bought them breakfast, as it was I apologised profusely for my errors, put on my helmet and probably singed the liner with my burning ears and rode off home. |
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 1739 Age: 60 Location: Portland, UK Points: 2906 Registration date: 2009-07-26
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:07 am | |
| | Meldrew wrote: | as it was I apologised profusely for my errors, put on my helmet and probably singed the liner with my burning ears and rode off home. |
That was me yesterday morning. It didn't matter how much the AA guy said - "it happens" I feel felt a right plonker for not spotting what should have been the obvious! |
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jobo2mi Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 120 Age: 58 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Points: 530 Registration date: 2011-06-06
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:07 am | |
| Oh yes .... a few times I've forgotten to LOOK at the gas gauge until it is SOOOO LOOOWWW!! Luckily, I haven't run out or anything, but I HAVE had to put 3.3 gal into a 3 gallon tank!!! Nuttin worse than going out to saddle up the Swing and IT WON'T START!!  And then when it is something like kickstand, kill switch or low fuel .... wellllll |
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Jinglebob Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 153 Points: 1251 Registration date: 2009-07-18
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:59 am | |
| Took the church crew up the Feather River Canyon this last summer...there were about 8 of us riding Harleys, Goldwings, Suzuki Boulevards and, of course, my SWing. We stopped in Quincy for lunch, then continued east on 70, intending to go out to 49 and back to Sacramento through Downieville and Nevada City. Somewhere along the line, we got turned around and we stopped in Portola to ask directions. I came out of the building, put on my gloves, turned the key, grabbed the left brake handle, hit the starter and ... nothing. Checked the key position...definitely on and lights were bright. Checked the kill switch...was on...cycled it and tried again...nothing. Starting to panic a bit...the guys were making several suggestions, but nothing seemed to work. I decided to dig the tools and flashlight out of the storage compartment and went to put the side stand down and then realized...it was already down. Retracted the side stand and the bike started right up. Caught some hoorah from the guys about that one.... |
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john123 Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 116 Age: 64 Location: Santa Barbara California Points: 983 Registration date: 2010-02-21
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:40 am | |
| Ha Ha. Live and learn. sounds like something I have done |
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tinman Maxi-Scooter Rider

Number of posts: 156 Age: 63 Location: Matheson, Ontario, Canada Points: 357 Registration date: 2011-11-29
 | Subject: Re: Embarrassing lesson learned. Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:56 am | |
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