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PostSubject: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 7:57 am

I just had the safety done,and on my way to the registration office.I was parking moving at a very slow speed when I taped the rear breaks,they locked up,and I slid forward and drop my sw ever so slowly to the ground . NO damage, only my pride.When I use the front break,they don't lock up,But the left hand breaking along is wicked. Is this normal.
Now the seat that is some thing else. I slipped off like I had step on a babana peel.It seems that Honda did not get it right.I did not speak of this . But I want to now if the front breaks had been cross connected.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 9:11 am

The left lever activates BOTH front and rear brakes. It is a very common mistake for anyone who has ridden motorcycles for any length of time -- it is NOT a clutch lever.

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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 9:38 am

I realies that .The front caliber has 3 pistons witch one is connected to the rear ,and two pistons are connected to the right hand lever . the front right lever does not lock up at low speed.I just thought 2 of the pistons could
have been connected by mistake.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 10:26 am

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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 12:44 pm

It happen on oct 1 .That is about the time I pict it up .It was an even
swap for my piaggio 250 mp3 witch I payed$3500 for in june and a 97
Artic cat 440 that I payed$2000 for 6 yrs a go .I think I got a good deal .
I did not have time to look at silverwing to busy putting on 2500kl3 weeks of riding.
I had no problem since the first time. It could of bean my fault .Right
front lever feels soft.I will look at it in the spring,when I put my mods.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 12:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 1:27 pm

With the right lever at 20kl ph lever compress to half and come to a stop
with reasonable time.
With left lever,it will stop very fast,like I don't need the right side to stop .
When I slip off the seat using the left lever,it happen so fast ,it through
me in the handle bars . I blame it on the shape of the seat sloping forward,and the fact that I have two knee replacement, could to blame.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 1:35 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 4:57 pm

Yes its a 2009 with ABS .That is why I was wondering if the break lines
had been crossed . Or is it normal to get a weak response when the right
lever is only used
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 5:08 pm

I feel that my 'scoot (2011 ABS) is the same, I tend to use the gentler right lever for slowing and both levers when I want more rapid stopping. I have no problems with this.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 5:12 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 6:01 pm

Yes I alway come to a stop with both hands on the levers .But it is possible
as I was sliding of the seat ,my reflex could made me slam into the bars,and to lose control .I cant see no other reason for my mishap .
WE will blame it on the old guy. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 6:09 pm

The abs light do not light up.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 6:18 pm

tinman wrote:
The abs light do not light up.


?????? Why should it?

Surely it only illuminates when there is a fault! Also on self test on start up.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 10, 2011 7:22 pm

What I ment to say ,that with the left hand lever,the front and back wheel lock up. Sorry for the confusion ,and the ABS light did not show that a fault,
was in progress.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 7:46 am

As for slipping off the seat, I certainly hope you (or the Honda dealer) did NOT use Armor All on the seat. That makes your seat slippery and way to easy to slide off!! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 2:07 pm

No did not use Armor all on the seat .I use it on my tires only.The previous
owner might have for sales appeal.I bought it 200 miles south from here.It was a good deal for me and bought it on the spot without driving it .It was raining hard and on a gravel road. Had it safetied on monday,
and rode to the registration office on the same day.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 2:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 3:10 pm

Last year I changed the oil and filter and my brother in law, a Goldwing owner, told me to put 1/4 cup Miracle Oil in the gas. Charged the battery once in winter. It seems to have worked nicely.

This year, I am going to try to ride during nice winter days.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 4:11 pm

The scooter is on centre stand,front tire on a piece of plywood,put stabilizer,
# one fuel,ran for 15 minutes,trickle charge battery,place in cool place in basement .I read that if you change oil in the fall, come spring you still
need to change oil again.It may not have been the right thing to do .With
5000kl on my sw and the oil looked clean ,I was going to do it in the spring.
Did not lower air pressure,I figured the cold to do it .
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 4:29 pm

I also removed the spark plugs ,an injected fogging oil in the cylinders ,
cranked it over for 15 seconds,to swash the oil around and to push out the excess oil out,and install the plugs.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 5:42 pm

Is it possible to drain the engine cold.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 7:24 pm

I have some full synthetic 5w4o on hand just need to pickup filter.Im going to town tomorrow,and I could pick one up ,and put battery back in to warm the engine and do a proper winterizing.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 11, 2011 7:40 pm

Yes I believe my bearings will thank me to,and I thank you to for the good advice.
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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 4:35 pm

Came back Timmins ,70kl away .pickup oil filter. Walmart ,and CT store,
don't carry them.Pick one up at Maslack supply . They could not fine a listing
on honda Google site.So we went to forum site and were abel to cross reference a WIK 51356 filter for a ACURA 02-04 Chrysler import .There was
two different length, I chose the longer one .I will do my oil change tomorrow.




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PostSubject: Re: Embarrassing moment    Embarrassing moment  I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 6:28 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence. After the oil change ,I might take a
look at installing my Givi top rack and passenger backrest,and the palm
rest . My air flow ws still on back order. I email the UK Friday to purchase
leg deflectors . How long does it take for a reply.
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I have used Canadian Tire MotoMaster # 17-1746-2 which also has the Fram # PH6607 stencilled on it.
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