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PostSubject: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 12, 2011 8:38 pm

First topic message reminder :

Completed the Dr Pulley Slider installation (26g) today and it wasn't as hard as I thought. Took my time, about 2 hours, but I did some cleaning while inside the case (dry brush, air hose). I went by the pictoral that JeffR posted some 2 1/2 years ago. Only have 3,080 mi on my Swing but there was a moderate amount of belt residue. Polished the roller/slider channels with fine steel wool but did not use any solvent or lubricant (anywhere). Did use an electric impact wrench to remove the 17mm variator bolt but my homemade variator tool is 30 inches long which can wedge against the ground while freeing up both hands for the ratchet. Manually torqued bolt to 76 ft/lbs as recommended by Honda service manual. Does anybody recommend using blue threadlock on the variator bolt? I did NOT.
My check ride today was only about 10 miles because it was 105 degrees outside but here is what I experienced:
A noticeable reduction in vibration (no more tingling in the handgrips).
A noticeable increase in overall acceleration, especially midrange.
At 55mph-4500rpm
At 70mph-5300rpm

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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 18, 2011 1:15 pm

I just installed the 26g sliders and they are fab! Moved the torque nicely down the rev range. Accelerating going up hill is no a pleasure not a chore. But BigBird, could you explain how this works. I was trying to explain it but failed miserably.
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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 18, 2011 1:55 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 18, 2011 2:03 pm

A little Dr. Pulley animation:

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But in reality the dark grey part is fixed and the light grey part is moving (thats that part which pushes the belt outwards)
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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 18, 2011 2:36 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 18, 2011 6:25 pm

Thanks to all of you who have had input on the "Sliders". I have a question.
I weigh about 215 and with my riding gear probably at some where around 240. I carry about 25 lbs of gear, extra tire plug kit, compressor etc so I am probably about 265 lbs plus give or take. I ordered the 26 sliders and have not received them yet out of Oregon. About $60.00 ttl. I have 24,500 miles on my 2005 Swing. I have "Metzler" tires. Now, Vealie you just put in 26 sliders do you think I will be happy with them? I have not checked the tolerance of the plates etc. but have a new belt installed at 18000 miles.
Old Dave in Western Nebraska altitude 3965 but run to altitudes of 12000 feet when I go over into Colorado. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 21, 2011 3:33 am

I regularly have to climb a long steep hill and the Wing would struggle. It would labour and feel like I wanted to change down a gear. With the 26g sliders the slight change in rpm gives it that little bit more and I can get up the hill and even slightly accelerate.

It's the centrifugal forces I can't explain, this thread is getting longer all the time so I'll have a read back through it.
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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 25, 2011 7:08 pm

I installed the 26g Dr Pully Sliders in my 2005 Swing and "understood" they would improve my gas mileage. . . Wrong! I think it is smoother etc but I am still disappointed with the mpg. What do I need to ck next to get better mpg?
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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 25, 2011 7:20 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 26, 2011 8:00 pm

Exactly what is the advantage of each of the weights? I have the 26g in my 2005 I do like the way it performs now better than the stock rollers. Which of the Dr Pully sliders is most recommended and why?
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PostSubject: Re: Dr Pulley Slider Installation   Dr Pulley Slider Installation - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 26, 2011 8:08 pm

Dave:
The way the weights work is this:
Lower weights give you better accelleration, but a bit less mpgs. Heavier weights give you better cruising mpgs, but a little less accelleration. Most guys are opting for weights in the 22g to 26 g range depending on their riding style and other factors like rider weight, and elevation.
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