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PostSubject: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:25 am

Anyone use or try a Throttlemeister throttle lock? I am considering an FH and AZ3-H heavy model for my Swing. They are pricey but most reviews are very positive.
Your opinions or suggestions please.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:14 am

I have had throttle meister on Concours. ok, but not the easiet to use. Not cheap.



Try Nep---under $20 US---work great, I drilled hole in tab and use a little safety wire. So it is very exact

Great throttle stop for picking nose, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:37 am

John, could you give me your opinions on the NEP, Vista Cruise,
Throttlemeister, Brakeaway, and whatever else may work well on the Swing.

They range in price from $15 for the NEP to $199 for the Brakeaway.

I am having a very tough time. You probably have experience with all of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:52 pm

Hi Bigbird,

I have the Vista Cruise on mine (pretty sure it's the MCVICO) and I've been pleased with it. I haven't had too many chances to use it, but it's nice to be able to give one's right hand an occasional break. I haven't really used it for longer times/distances as a 'cruise control' yet, but it seems like it should work as intended once it's adjusted correctly (I keep the little adjuster thing they give you on my key ring so I can tweak it at stops if needed).

The install is easy and takes maybe an hour or less. It sort of gets in the way of the starter switch, but it would only be an issue if you needed to hit the started while driving. I seem to remember Dennis saying that he had the NEP, and besides being a little cheaper, the thumb tab is positioned higher (I think there's a picture on here somewhere) and looks like it's completely out of the way of the starter switch. I sort of like the lower look now that it's on there, but that's just a personal preference.

All-in-all, I think it's well worth the $22.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:01 pm

Also, I think I remember that someone used a BrakeAway lock on a SWing (not sure if it was here). At any rate, if you're in the market for a higher-end lock, it looks like a pretty nice one, and the fact that it releases automatically with the brake is a good safety feature.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:45 pm

For Big Bird----NEP work best. Just flick it on when you need, set it up so you can override if you need to slow down. Getting harder and harder to find, but I think Aerostich still has them.


For years Triumph/BMW/MZ had set screw and nut you could regulate throttle friction with. My Kawasaki Voyager even had electronic cruise----once in a lifetime experience----if would give gas to maintain speed just when not necessary. Concours had real bastard throttle set up and only one I could get to work was Throttle meister for then $75.

I have bought and thrown away probably one of everything available----when BMW stopped the set screw deal, bought several, then found out the casting still allowed for screw and shoe. My junk box for throttle stops is now strictly NEP.
Should probably order a couple more, just in case.







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To me throttle stop necessary if you ride a lot----sometimes fun in open country to set at 65mph or so and see what bikes does on own---mine 75 downhill, sometimes as slow as 50 unhill. Also allows change of riding position as bars seem to me too far back and probably too high---I use the two master cylinders for my hands.

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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:09 pm

I've used Throttlemeister™ on all my bikes. My Connie still has it attached and will be buying two more.. one for my BlackWing and one for GF's RedWing.

NEP™ works, but it's cheap plastic. The one that came attached to my '05 Wing, and the one I had on my PC-800, always needed adjustment using the screw. During a ride it would lose tension and incrementally lose the ability to hold the throttle.

Throttlemeisters™ are simple to operate, built like tanks and add the added bonus of dampening some vibe due to their weight. They are drop dead simple to operate - Spend five to ten minutes after attaching to get the hang of how you like to operate and you're set. Other than an electronic curise control, the Throttlemeister is the Gold Standard™ to which all other throttle locks are measured.

Without it, I feel like I'm being crucified right around my wrist bone after 2-3 hours of holding throttle. I have a "surgically modified" right shoulder (jeep rollover) and the Throttlemeister™ allows me to sit back and use my left hand to steer while I rest my shoulder.

Expensive? Yeah, kinda. Totally worth it AND will last forever? You Bet!

Highest Recommendation.


Last edited by Chinasaur on Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:13 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Clarity)
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:23 pm

I've had a NEP throttle lock on my Silverwing for a couple of years now and it has worked great for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:15 pm

Can anyone say for certain which of these will fit with Honda heated grips?

The BrakeAway one states definitely that it doesn't.

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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:02 am

Since bars on SilverWing are usual 7/8", inside dia. should be ok.

Throttlemeister works on own friction, grips shouldn't mattter but they have to be open end....as I recall some shims to get everthing right.

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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:18 am

Thank you, John.

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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:44 pm

Thanks to all who contributed their opinions. I ordered a Throttlemeister. Full report to follow in a couple of weeks once my visiting relative from the US brings them up to Canada for me. Saved lots of $ by not direct shipping to Canada.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:05 pm

I think you'll love it!
I took the one off my '97 Triumph and put it on my 06 SW!
Just had to take ALL the washers off....or the throttle would stick,,,
I think you will find if you use the end of your palm,and your pinky,it's real easy to use! (make sure you put Loctite on after you get it adjusted right! I have heard stories of them losening and falling off!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:45 pm

I forgot to add that I just found out throttle locks are illegal in my province. So I immediately ruled out any obvious throttle lock like NEP, Vista, Brakeaway, etc.
The Throttlemeister looks nothing like a throttle lock, so if any police saw my Swing with a Throttlemeister, I doubt they would recognize it as a throttle lock.
I got it in black, so it looks just like a regular bar end weight.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:45 pm

Have you got it installed yet?
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:04 pm

Chinasaur wrote:
Have you got it installed yet?


A relative just brought it into Winnipeg late last night. I'll see her Thursday and probably install it Friday. She also brought me a Wrist Rest and a new set of J.Costa pins for when mine need replacing.
Nice to have an aunt who doesn't mind stuff shipped to her house in California and then brings them into Canada for her nephew as "gifts".
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:38 pm

We put a Throttlemeister on my brother's BMW a few years ago. It's worked very well for him. I went a bit cheaper on my SW and installed a Vista Cruise which works well. Some time this winter I plan on adding a Rostra electronic cruise control. I really feel the lack because my Goldwing has cruise control which is really a boon on a long ride.
I recently bought Gerbing G3 heated gloves so I'm looking forward to the coming cold season riding both on the GW and the SW. The warmer gloves will be even more welcom on the SW because it doesn't have as much wind protection.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:15 pm

What are J.Costa pins and How do I know if I need them ..I have a 2008 SW,, And what size and what do they do
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:22 pm

Antman94 wrote:
What are J.Costa pins and How do I know if I need them ..I have a 2008 SW,, And what size and what do they do


This has been discussed many times in many threads. Please do a search here for J. Costa
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:28 pm

exavid wrote:
We put a Throttlemeister on my brother's BMW a few years ago. It's worked very well for him. I went a bit cheaper on my SW and installed a Vista Cruise which works well. Some time this winter I plan on adding a Rostra electronic cruise control. I really feel the lack because my Goldwing has cruise control which is really a boon on a long ride.


I see you're in Medford, OR. I was through there many years ago and all I remember was the beautiful scenery and hilly terrain. I can fully understand why a throttle lock would be almost useless there.
Where I live it is flat, flat, and more flat. A throttle lock should serve me well.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:14 pm

bigbird wrote:
Chinasaur wrote:
Have you got it installed yet?


A relative just brought it into Winnipeg late last night. I'll see her Thursday and probably install it Friday. She also brought me a Wrist Rest and a new set of J.Costa pins for when mine need replacing.
Nice to have an aunt who doesn't mind stuff shipped to her house in California and then brings them into Canada for her nephew as "gifts".


My aunt brought the Throttlemeister in her carry-on luggage. She had no problem with security when leaving LAX. On arrival in Calgary, the Canadian customs agent saw the machined parts of the Throttlemeister through the X-ray scan of her carry on luggage. Of course seeing these small heavy precision machined objects got their attention. They made her empty everything out of her bag. She told them it was a gift of "something for my nephew's small motorcycle" as she called my Swing (she's never seen it but only knows it's a scooter). On seeing the parts in their plastic bag, they immediately let her proceed. She was pissed with customs that she had to empty everything that was so carefully packed, but at least she wasn't upset with me. In hindsight, she said she should have just put the Throttlemesiter in her purse and shown it immediately to them.
So, if you're going through any kind of airport with a Throttlemeister, it's best not to bury it in your carry-on luggage.
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PostSubject: Re: Throttlemeister?   Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:08 pm

The removal of the Honda bar end weights, installation and setup of the Throttlemeister took about 20 minutes. As others have said, the adjusting of the clearance using thin washers takes the most time. Be prepared to use a good quality Phillips screwdriver when removing the stock bar end weights, as Honda uses threadlocker on them. A lousy tool will just end up stripping the screw, as they are in REALLY tight with the threadlocker. If you have an impact screwdriver, even better.

I took the Swing out on the highway to try the Throttlemeister. It works exactly as advertised and is VERY smooth. The only drawback, and this will come with practice, is setting the lock with your right palm while driving. It's very difficult with gloves, so I had to crossover using my left hand.
Other than that, it works and works well.

I left off the Throttlemeister decal and the on-off decal. Without them the device is very innocuous and stealthy. No one will try to steal it, as it looks like stock bar ends, only longer. They suggest using locktite on both ends of the Throttlemeister, which I did.
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