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PostSubject: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSat May 25, 2019 9:54 am

Recently purchased and installed a light smoke MadStad adjustable windscreen.  Both height and angle can be adjusted.  Installation was not difficult.  Took 45 minutes.  As advertised, it does reduce helmet buffeting and noise level.  Would recommend.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSat May 25, 2019 11:18 am

How about a photo?
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSat May 25, 2019 12:15 pm

Here's a link for the SWing:
https://madstad.com/collections/honda/products/honda-fjs600
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PostSubject: Madstad windshield   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 13, 2019 7:26 pm

Has anyone here had any experience with the Madstad adjustable windshield? I've had the Givi adjustable on my last Silverwing but the Mastad looks pretty good. The Mastad adjusts both in angle and height.

https://madstad.com/products/honda-fjs600

The '07 SW I just bought has a high Givi airflow screen which I'm going to shorten because I have to be able to see over it. I was thinking of just putting on another adjustable screen. The Givi air flow I had before worked well but the Mastad looks better on the scooter so I'm currently leaning that way.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 13, 2019 11:47 pm

RickV posted that he had a Madstad for sale here on the forum last year (IIRC). He hasn't posted here in a couple of months but it might pay to email him to see if it's still available.

Tim

It'd be a shame to spend all that money on a brand new Madstad only to have to cut it down. Whereas the Givi AF top half is common to all their AF screens and probably much easier to replace if needed.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 12:05 am

I missed this thread when I asked on the forum if anyone had installed a Madstad windshield. Glad to hear it recommended by MB Don. My SW has a tall Givi Airflow, it's a good windshield but I don't care for a windshield that I can't easily see over. For the moment I'll shorten it about 2 1/2" but I think I'll go for the Madstad soon. I had a Givi adjustable on my last SW before this one. It worked well but I didn't really care for the look. The Madstad looks good on the bike in the picture. Probably won't be at risk of losing the top of it either and the ability adjust the angle as well as the height would be good too.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 12:25 am

Thanks I'll give that a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 3:41 am

FYI, the GIVI adjustable windshield and the GIVI Airflow is one and the same. The tall one piece is the DT214 and the two piece adjustable one is the AF214 for our Swings.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 7:27 am

Here's a link to RickV's earlier Madstad comments:

http://www.silverwing600.com/t7124-madtad-windshield-questions-use#70252
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 8:04 am

Paul, I hate to see you cut down the present windshield. Since Cee Bailey left m/c shields behind it is hard to find a larger than stock windshield. I am betting you could sell it on here to taller riders. I bought the Cee Bailey +5 shield and am very happy with it. I had an adjustable on my Gold Wing but once i got it to the correct height I never moved it again. So the extra price and complexity was not worth it at least for me!!! Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 8:34 am

exavid wrote:
Probably won't be at risk of losing the top of it either and the ability adjust the angle as well as the height would be good too.

Since I reported about losing not one but two top screens way back in 2011 and 2012, who else on here has actually posting about losing one since?

I think you'll be pretty safe with the Givi AF 214 Airflow, and although it's easily adjustable, once you find a height that works I reckon you’ll pretty much leave it alone.

I've read forum posts about owners with Airflows on a variety of maxi scooters saying they can quickly change the screen height when stopped at traffic lights, and I always think why? Unless you're one of those oddballs that prefer looking through the screen and it's raining or at night and you have to.

Spend a few miles getting the optimum screen height and then leave it alone. I did that with my last top screen and then it stayed at that height for the next 7 years. It's still on that setting in it's box in my shed.

Even with the electric screen on the Forza I have now, since changing the OE screen to a taller Givi one, it's the extra width and not height that makes the difference. Now I've added the Givi hand guards that are fixed to the bodywork I hardly ever touch the switches to change screen height, and I run with it lower.

Unless that Madstad screen gives some hand coverage I'd stick with the Givi Airflow, those side wings are pretty effective in bad weather.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 8:53 am

Meldrew wrote:
... snipped ... Unless that Madstad screen gives some hand coverage I'd stick with the Givi Airflow, those side wings are pretty effective in bad weather.

That was my thought too after looking at the pics. There appears to be little to no side/hand coverage with the shape of the Madstad windscreen.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 12:24 pm

I too agree, since having my Givi Airflow, I find it deflects the wind away from the hands perfectly, although I'm still playing around with the height to suit my needs.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 12:52 pm

One advantage of the Madstad is that the aluminum mount base allows itself to be used to mount a light bar or a Screaming Banshee horn. Either of which have been a major headache on the Silverwing.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 14, 2019 8:55 pm

I think I'll leave the present Airflow on the bike this fall, albeit cut down a couple inches. I riding country roads in the right weather it's not uncommon around here to go through a dip in the road where the air is cooler and have an instant covering of fog on the screen. Also once while riding my Goldwing in rainy weather I got sprayed by a semi going the other way and got a gob of muck on my windshield. Like having a solid brown screen. It was a cattle truck too, so it probably wasn't mud.

Either way that's an experience I don't want to repeat. I'd rather get it on my helmet visor that I can flip up than the windshield that I can't.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 15, 2019 9:28 am

Am I the only one confused here. After nine years on this forum where the Givi Airflow is the subject of numerous topics, you must know what a Givi Airflow is. The AF214 two piece screen with a removable adjustable top screen.

It's already been mentioned that is the taller one piece non adjustable Givi screen is the DT 214 which is fine for some owners and too tall for others

So why in your post above do you say you're going to cut down your 'Airflow' a couple of inches. All you need to do is loosen two levers off and move the top screen down a couple of inches lower and tighten up the levers again.

I'm now starting to think Portland isn't the only thing in Oregon that's weird! scratch
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 15, 2019 10:01 am

Meldrew wrote:
[Snip] So why in your post above do you say you're going to cut down your 'Airflow' a couple of inches. All you need to do is loosen two levers off and move the top screen down a couple of inches lower and tighten up the levers again.[Snip]

Or remove the top half altogether.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 15, 2019 10:40 am

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
Or remove the top half altogether.

I wouldn't recommend it Timothy, I've ridden with only the fixed lower screen a couple of times after I lost those top sections and the wind noise it generates is appalling. Even with custom fit ear plugs my ears were ringing, and my clothing, helmet, and visor were covered with bug splat.

In fact it's everything you ride behind an effective screen to avoid, and far worse than anything that useless OE Honda screen could throw at you.

I know I've posted about how unpleasant it is before, and that was for the benefit of a couple of posters who thought riding without the top screen would be like those Harley Davidsons with the colour matched handlebar fairing with the very short screen.

You may not have noticed ,but over this side of the Pond I've refrained so far from sniggering at the references to 'getting sprayed by a semi' and 'getting a gob of muck on my windshield'.  Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 15, 2019 4:58 pm

😂😂😂
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 17, 2019 10:46 pm

How is that screen working for you GoonerKev? Well made product? Durable looking?
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 17, 2019 10:53 pm

I measured the amount of clearance over the the top of my helmet to the main rush of wind today and it looks like I can easily take two inches off without losing any protection. I actually will probably try and inch and a half first.

C Bailey windshields are great, I put one on my GL500 Goldwing. Well made, a bit thicker than original that made it a wee bit harder to pull up or push down but no flexing up to a bit over a ton on the speedo.

Right now I'm figuring out how to best mount a Givi top box base to my scooter. So experimenting with the winshield will be on the back burner for now.

Just got in a new drive belt, my SW has 16,000mi on the clock so it's due for replacement. I'll need to clean out the pulley cheek pieces and the belt housing, every SW I've had before needed that done.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 18, 2019 3:06 am

Paul W
The Givi screen is working just fine for me, I now seem to have it in the perfect position for me, and made a little line either side on it so if and when I want a bit more fresh air and lower it, I can move it back to my optimum position and no more guessing Wink
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 18, 2019 4:40 pm

It looks good GoonerKev. I think I'll go that way instead of cutting the Givi windshield. I had the adjustable Givi (Meldrew, notice I'm not saying Airflow adjustable) on a SW a few years ago but it didn't look as good as the MadStad does on the bike.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 18, 2019 4:42 pm

thumbs up Good for you Paul Wink
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 18, 2019 6:42 pm

exavid wrote:
I had the adjustable Givi (Meldrew, notice I'm not saying Airflow adjustable) on a SW a few years ago but it didn't look as good as the MadStad does on the bike.

Do tell us more about this adjustable Givi that you're saying wasn't an Airflow. Simply because I''m unaware of it being produced. I've never found it listed on any accessories website, or read any posts about it from Silver Wing owners on here or other maxi scooter forums.

Both Givi (and Kappa) have only ever listed two screens for the Silver Wing. The tall one piece DT 214 and the identical Kappa version, and the two piece height adjustable Givi AF214 Airflow and it's Kappa clone.  scratch
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 18, 2019 6:45 pm

I believe you are the one who made a point of saying the Givi adjustable WASN'T an Airflow.

The distinction really doesn't affect or interest me that much. I'll simply refer to it in the future as the Givi windshield with the upper and downer.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 18, 2019 8:12 pm

Not everything translates from your side of the Pond to over here. So I'm guessing in Oregan speak, riding with your Airflow 'cut down a couple of inches' actually means you've just lowered it.

Which is kinda confusing, we all understand forest workers and lumberjacks cut down trees, they don't lower them do they.

Then of course some owners proudly post about cutting down screens that are too tall for them, unless of course they've cocked the job up and cracked or broken the screen attempting it.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 20, 2019 12:47 am

When I say "cut down" I don't mean lowered or even hewn. I mean cutting a strip off across the upper edge of the windscreen which we call a windshield. I've done it on a couple motorcycles and a Silverwing I used to own.

Cover the area where the cut is going to be with masking tape. Using a divider draw the line using whatever width strip width you wish to remove. Cut it with a sabersaw using a low speed to prevent the cut from melting or use a coping saw. Once cut use a fine sand paper on a sanding block untill all the saw marks are sianded out. Follow with fine sandpaper until the edge is smooth and clear of marks, also sand both edges of the cut with fine paper to slightly radius the edge to insure there are not stress raisers like fine scratches that can cause cracks in the plastic to begin.

If you do it right it won't be possible to tell that the edge wasn't original.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 20, 2019 12:52 am

Back to the MadStad windshield/windscreen one thing I wonder about is the aluminum portion. Since it protrudes upward above the dashboard is there any chance one might be injured in an accident hitting that aluminum edge with one's head? Does the aluminum's upper edge have any kind of rubber trim covering the upper edge?
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 20, 2019 2:55 am

Paul
Having looked at a few MadStad windshield on the web, I would say that the aluminum brackets "Could" in certain circumstances make contact with one's head if an impact occurred & as you say, it does protrude above the dash area. Go for the Givi mate, better off Wink

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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 20, 2019 1:42 pm

I put a Give adjustable on a previous Silver Wing I owned. It worked well other than a bit of back wind when at speed. It just didn't look all that great. But then I'm not much of a decoration on a SW either so maybe I will try another Givi. First I think I'll trim the one that's on the bike. That worked well for me on a Goldwing I had once that came with a high windshield installed on it.











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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 20, 2019 3:39 pm

Yep, do what you gotta do Paul, it's your bike mate Wink
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 21, 2019 12:23 am

Agreed! One way or another. Shortening what I have now will be the cheapest remedy. I'll see how it works for me, if it doesn't there are the other alternatives. Right now I'm tired from working all afternoon adapting my new Givi top box mount to the Silverwing's tail piece. It's on now and looks good. Not too bad with the box off either but I don't imagine I'll take it off often.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 21, 2019 5:54 pm

The Givi box rattles a bit on it's mounts. I'm going to have to do something to stop that or only ride with it on very smooth roads. I'll stick some round pieces of inner tube over the existing rubber bumpers on the mounting plate to see if that will tighten it up enough so stop that blasted rattle.
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PostSubject: Re: MadStad Windscreen   MadStad Windscreen I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 30, 2019 8:29 am

Dale N. wrote:
Here's a link for the SWing:
https://madstad.com/collections/honda/products/honda-fjs600
Crikey! I didn't pay that much for the whole bike!
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