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PostSubject: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSun 23 Aug 2009, 23:43

Does anyone have problems with the piston thingy that holds up the seat just not working properly 50% of the time, ie seat slowly comes down? Is there a knack to getting the seat to stay up?
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSun 23 Aug 2009, 23:48

The strut can over time lose its ability to hold the saddle open.

On another note it has a limit to the amount of weight it can hold up. if the saddle has been modified - resulting in a heavier saddle - the strut will not be able to hold the saddle open.

This is a rather expensive OEM item. It might be worth while to look for a replacement at an auto parts store.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeMon 24 Aug 2009, 00:13

Hi,

This has been talked about on the silverwing.org sight, alot.

Here's the information thread:

http://www.silverwing.org/cgi-bin/topic_show.pl?pid=24377;hl=McMaster-carr

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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeMon 24 Aug 2009, 00:31

DennisB wrote:
This has been talked about on the silverwing.org sight, alot.

Here's the information thread:

http://www.silverwing.org/cgi-bin/topic_show.pl?pid=24377;hl=McMaster-carr

After I added the Utopia backrest, the OEM strut no longer worke ... so I spent a lot of time searching for a stronger replacement. This strut works great even with all this on my OEM seam ... I have not had a single problem with all this gear:

- Utopia Backrest
- AirHawk Medium
- Alaskan Sheepskin Large
- Alaskan Sheepskin Medium
- Butt-rest removed
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeMon 24 Aug 2009, 15:19

Thanks for the info.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeFri 16 Jul 2010, 21:43

Well, can anyone give me an idea of what this seat piston is or where I can get it without going to that-site-which-shall-remain-nameless?

Sick of my seat falling down. Heck, it is a 2002 and as far as I can tell this is the only worn out part! (it's my understanding that they weren't that great to start out.)
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeFri 16 Jul 2010, 23:26

Hey, Give this thread a try: http://www.servicehonda.com/look-up-parts/03

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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeFri 16 Jul 2010, 23:50

DuggleBogey wrote:
Well, can anyone give me an idea of what this seat piston is or where I can get it without going to that-site-which-shall-remain-nameless?

Sick of my seat falling down. Heck, it is a 2002 and as far as I can tell this is the only worn out part! (it's my understanding that they weren't that great to start out.)

I ordered my seat piston from http://www.mcmaster.com , which was a stronger and better piston.


1 @ 6465K12 REDUCIBLE-FORCE GAS SPRING, 3.94" STROKE, 90 LBS MAX FORCE, M5 MALE THREAD SZ

2 @ 6465K25 NYLON EYELET END FITTING FOR .59"CYLINDER
DIA, REDUCIBLE-FORCE GAS SPRING

I checked and they are still available.

The seat piston is adjustable, if you let out too much pressure it will not work.

I made sure I had everything installed that would be on the seat, then I added about 30 pounds. I slowly let out the air and tested occasionally the pressure to put the seat down.

With the extra weight on I could gauge the "give" point earlier.


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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeFri 16 Jul 2010, 23:53

Dan,

What did you do to your post ??
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 00:05

I have the stock seat. If I can't find a piston locally I will order the one mentioned and adjust it.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 00:19

That was bizzar. I got rid of that mess. Seat piston thingy Icon_cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 00:46

Someone want to clue me in?
What happened to my post?
What was bazzar?
What mess?
Did John try to ban me from this site too?

I do know when I posted it told me that while I was writing my post someone else replied, and it asked me if I still wanted to post. I said yes.

All I posted was that corbin seats use a different, stronger piston, and if you had a corbin seat or wanted a stronger piston you could get it from Corbin.

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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 00:58

Dan, Some how you copied and pasted a large portion of the same topic over it's self. Never seen that happen before. Seat piston thingy Suspect Please re-add your information.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 01:00

What can I say? I'm an original! Seat piston thingy Icon_rr
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 01:10

Just curious, what happens if you do not let the gas out of the piston. Is it just harder to shut the seat or open it? My plan is to get a Russel Day Long in the next few weeks. I am expecting it to be heavier than stock. Anyone else have one of them?
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 01:12

Maybe you get a constipated piston?
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 03:34

Corbin includes a more robust piston with their saddles due to the extra weight of their saddle. You might contact them to see if they would sell you one of theirs
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 05:16

Opalsboy wrote:
Just curious, what happens if you do not let the gas out of the piston. Is it just harder to shut the seat or open it?

If you do not adjust the air pressure, the seat was incredibly hard to close ... I stopped trying. When adjusted properly, it is very easy to close.

Opalsboy wrote:
My plan is to get a Russel Day Long in the next few weeks.

I will have to see this seat when you get it Seat piston thingy Icon_cool

Opalsboy wrote:
JI am expecting it to be heavier than stock.

The McMaster piston can handle it.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 17 Jul 2010, 15:32

Not to worry Gary. If it is heavier than stock, it's not much. The stock piston works VERY WELL for me.
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PostSubject: Gas seat strut - clarification requested   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 05 Apr 2014, 14:51

Quote :
I ordered my seat piston from http://www.mcmaster.com, which was a stronger and better piston.

1 @ 6465K12 REDUCIBLE-FORCE GAS SPRING, 3.94" STROKE, 90 LBS MAX FORCE, M5 MALE THREAD SZ

The seat piston is adjustable, if you let out too much pressure it will not work.

I made sure I had everything installed that would be on the seat, then I added about 30 pounds. I slowly let out the air and tested occasionally the pressure to put the seat down.

I know this is an older post, but I had checked and these are still listed at McMaster. My question is, since these are adjustable, how is pressure added, i.e., is there a Schrader (tire) valve to add pressure if too much is let out, or the seat weight changes? If this is stated already, I must have missed it.
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PostSubject: Re: Seat piston thingy   Seat piston thingy I_icon_minitimeSat 05 Apr 2014, 15:12

IIRC it's only adjustable in that you can let pressure out, but you are unable to add or replace lost pressure.

Seems to me too that someone recently found another strut option beside OEM & McMaster-Carr
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