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PostSubject: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:02 pm

Question Am curious if any of these can be used on our bikes 12v socket ?



I bought one from a local DIY store but it did not state any spec or Watt requirement.


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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:32 am

I doubt...

1- Measure the resistance value of the tool.( Ohm )
You can (let) do it with any cheap digital measurement instrument.
Then we have a idea what load (Ampere) the tool will pull out of the 12V socket.

2- Find out the fuse value that protect your 12V socket.

I will vote for a camp cook burner on gasoline.


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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:30 am

I'd say not - the amount of energy required to boil even a cup of water would blow a fuse.

Power sockets in cars & trucks are intended to run 2-3 gadgets simultaneously, whereas for the bike, it'll be sat-nav or phone (much lower current draw).

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:15 am

I tried one of these in a car once, it would have been quicker stirring the water with a stick to get the water hot enough for a cup of coffee.

A lot of power and could actually drain the battery unless you have the engine running whilst using it.

Try something like this...
http://www.thebushcraftstore.co.uk/swiss-gel-fuel-stove-112-p.asp

Small kettle or metal mug is all you need.

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:23 am

Thanks for the input folks!

Ive since perish the idea of trying it on my scoot

@ Paul : I guess that make sense. Ive found my stand alone bike battery and in the process of charging it up to see if the boiler indeed work or how much it draws.

@eddy : Ive dismantle the boiler, there are no fuse in the connecting socket lol

@ tarmacburner2 : Did it actually boil the water when u stir it? I read some are just warmer. Ive got that solid fuel burner, was tickering with this due to the small space it takes up.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:37 am

I've used a similar gadget but in a kettle shape in a car. It took more than 20 minutes to be able to get it hot enough to dissolve instant coffee. They run less than 10 amps (fused) and probably around 5 or 6 amps. The socket in the glovebox is rated to 1 amp max.
Tarmac's idea is good, but I would get a coffee from a reputeable vendor.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:49 am

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@ tarmacburner2 : Did it actually boil the water when u stir it? I read some are just warmer. Ive got that solid fuel burner, was tickering with this due to the small space it takes up.

No just my sense of humour!

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:16 am

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Thanks Tarmie you just made my day.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:39 pm

hahaha I got caught by tarmacburner2 Embarassed ..nice one!

I went ahead and connect the boiler to my other bike without cranking ...it gets the water quite hot until the led light on the 12v socket went off and the battery went down. Jump started the bike ....

Going to try again with engine running...
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:54 pm

Dont forget the power plug is only good for 1 amp. Read your owners manual..it suggests damage to other components if you exceed this. It is better to jump it straight off the battery by installing a 10 amp cig socket in the tupperware. correctly set up with an isolator switch you can also charge the battery via this socket and run other 12 volt goodies like a tyre compressor, trouble lamp etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:03 am

Thanks Kurt.

I read the manual on my cb250 and it says the total power generated is 190w when running but Im nuts with calculating how much goes to the head light (35w bulbs) and tailight and stuff..

The old bike cig socket has a 10a fuse and connect directly to the battery with a on off switch. Im going to connect a multimeter to monitor it when I next try. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:10 am

Swinger_FJS400 wrote:
Question Am curious if any of these can be used on our bikes 12v socket ?



I bought one from a local DIY store but it did not state any spec or Watt requirement.



Have to ask; why would you need one? silent

Take a thermos!!!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Anyone tried using this on your 12v socket? (water boiler!)   Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:17 am

I first came across those water heaters fitted with a 2-prong Continental plug 40 years ago. In Germany a lot of squaddies had them in their barrack- rooms to make a quick brew in a mug. I've got one I occasionally carry in my touring kit as a lot of German hotels and pensions don't have a hospitality tray with a kettle and stuff for making a hot drink.
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