Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum

Welcome to the home for Honda SilverWing and everyone interested. This is a place to ask questions, share, and learn about the SilverWing and its dedicated riders. Please join us and be an active member of this site.
 
HomeCalendarGalleryFAQSearchRegisterLog in
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Latest topics
» Windshield
by JeffR_ Today at 10:03 pm

» Givi windshield
by JeffR_ Today at 9:56 pm

» Run to LaPorte
by JeffR_ Today at 9:54 pm

» 2012 Honda-Integra-NC-700-ABS-DCT Review
by JeffR_ Today at 9:52 pm

» Auxiliary Front Lights - Advice Wanted
by EasyRider SilverWinger Today at 6:04 pm

» heavier duty front springs for swing
by bigbird Today at 4:39 pm

» UK ride posting
by RArch Today at 2:42 pm

» US Motorcycle Magazine came in the mail today.
by john grinsel Today at 1:12 pm

» Does anyone have the Side Case Attachments on SW 600
by bigbird Today at 11:27 am

» Corbin Seat More Leg Room
by larryinseattle Yesterday at 11:31 pm

» Stock seat mods
by crahar Yesterday at 9:24 pm

» Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial
by "Hi Yo" Yesterday at 8:35 pm

Navigation
 Portal
 Index
 Memberlist
 Profile
 FAQ
 Search
free forum
 
Share | 
 

 I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:49 am

So since my 400 mile round trip over the weekend I have become near-obsessed with the idea of installing an electronic cruise control into my S'wing.

After doing some research i will most likely be installing the Rostra universal system, which doesn't rely on a vacuum source nor a tach source and should be pretty simple to install. (my only real concerns are if the throttle cable will be long enough to reach from the front of the bike (behind the headlights, no ABS module) to the throttle body and how much modification of the throttle cam is required for a reliable connection).

I am estimating parts at around $250 and perhaps maximum of 4 hours labor including removing all required panels. I hope to document everything (unless anybody has done so already).

Hopefully I'll have the parts and will do the work over holiday vacation.

Thanks,
Jesse in Atlanta
Back to top Go down
bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2165
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3063
Registration date: 2010-05-02

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:12 am

Looking forward to your play by play description. My throttle lock is very good, electronic cruise with a stepper motor and no vacuum source is way better.
Back to top Go down
http://silverwing600tech.proboards.com/index.cgi
ulflyer
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 155
Location: Lexington NC
Points: 400
Registration date: 2011-10-27

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:15 pm

Jesse, I'm with you on wanting a cruise control. It came on the Can Am and its fantastic. I ride a lot of open roads so the cruise is very useful.
Please document the process and also, if you will, where you got the parts.
Back to top Go down
john grinsel
Silver Wing Expert
Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 530
Points: 1604
Registration date: 2009-08-18

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:29 am

Save your money. I have had one bike new that came with cruise control, a Kawasaki Voyager----problem, it may give a shot of gas just when you don't need it. Bikes fall down/slip, etc.

For nose picking, etc, I find Nep throttle stop fine-----Otherwise I prefer to be in control of bike/life and enjoy ride.

Back to top Go down
bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2165
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3063
Registration date: 2010-05-02

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:31 am

john grinsel wrote:
Save your money.
For nose picking, etc, I find Nep throttle stop fine-----Otherwise I prefer to be in control of bike/life and enjoy ride.


Jesse wants to spend his money.
He has had a throttle lock.
He wants the seamless ability to maintain steady speeds.

Maybe your Voyager had a defective cruise control.
Just because yours had a hiccup and almost pitched you off doesn't mean you should paint every cruise control with the John Grinsel brush of ridicule.
Is every public bathroom in the world a pigsty just because of Tennessee?
I think you get my drift.
Back to top Go down
http://silverwing600tech.proboards.com/index.cgi
john grinsel
Silver Wing Expert
Silver Wing Expert


Number of posts: 530
Points: 1604
Registration date: 2009-08-18

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:32 am

My Voyager cruise control had no defect---but did/could make surge of power to maintain speed----not good when slippery, etc.

I guess I am just different type of rider and like to pay attention/enjoy the ride.
Back to top Go down
bigbird
Silver Wing Guru
Silver Wing Guru


Number of posts: 2165
Location: Winnipeg Canada
Points: 3063
Registration date: 2010-05-02

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:43 am

john grinsel wrote:

I guess I am just different type of rider and like to pay attention/enjoy the ride.


And that's great. Enjoy the ride on whatever you replace the Honda 700 with.
Back to top Go down
http://silverwing600tech.proboards.com/index.cgi
Windrider
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 133
Age: 73
Points: 828
Registration date: 2010-07-05

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:26 am

john grinsel wrote:
Save your money. I have had one bike new that came with cruise control, a Kawasaki Voyager----problem, it may give a shot of gas just when you don't need it. Bikes fall down/slip, etc.

For nose picking, etc, I find Nep throttle stop fine-----Otherwise I prefer to be in control of bike/life and enjoy ride.



I had cruise control on my Goldwing, and My Harley Roadking and liked them both. if you are riding with a group you can't use them. I would like to have cruise on My Swing too.
Back to top Go down
bikerboy
Scooter Rider
Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 95
Age: 68
Location: Leyland England
Points: 482
Registration date: 2011-05-12

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:50 am

I had an Australian cruise control on my ST1100 (McCruise?), it worked fine but had acomplicated linkage to the throttle and was not cheap in the UK. I could use a cruise control now and then but it would need to be easy to fit and cheapish !!
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:03 am

So I shopped around and found the Rostra kit and controller for about $243 including shipping. Then after I ordered i found a similar kit here for $240 (free shipping): http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=369 .

From what i can tell the difference is the controller for the one I ordered is similar, but has 2 indicator lights on it- an "ON" light and a "CC Active" light whereas the Murph's kit one just has an "ON" light (although I believe the wiring of the kit allows a remote-mounted "active" light.
On the Murph's kit website i also found a silicone "Prophylaxis" that is supposed to fit over the controller and serve as a good water repellant. I ordered this and it was $5.25 including shipping. I still plan to disassemble the controller and squeeze some clear silicone into the cable entry and seam areas.
The Murph's site includes at least 2 installation instructions, one on a Kawasaki 4 cylinder and one on a BMW 4 cylinder.

What I have been trying to decide is where to place the control module, whether on the left handlebar, right handlebar, or somewhere in the middle, such as the center of the handlebar cover. I am also looking to find some kind of handrest for the right handlebar (that perhaps replaces the weighted bar end) so I will have a place to keep my right hand while the cruise control is active.

Jesse in Atlanta
Back to top Go down
ulflyer
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 155
Location: Lexington NC
Points: 400
Registration date: 2011-10-27

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:54 am

Jesse: I'd suggest mounting on the right side because the activate and speed up/down are on the right of the box, where your thumb could more easily touch them without looking. On the left, without looking, you're likely to be hitting the on/off button.

The mount looks like something that could easily be fashioned out of soft metal or preferably aluminum and cut so the box can be mounted as convenient as possible.

Please document and take pics. I've very much interested if it appears something I can do myself.
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:11 am

I didn't order the aluminum bracket- I'll probably end up making one myself.

The problem with mounting on the right side is that I would possibly have to take my hand off of the throttle to activate the cruise control, and the bike would immediately begin to slow down before the speed is set. If i mount on the left side I am afraid to take my hand off of that grip in case of a surge in speed. I guess I will try multiple mounting positions before I make a final decision.

Thanks for your input,

Jesse
Back to top Go down
ulflyer
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 155
Location: Lexington NC
Points: 400
Registration date: 2011-10-27

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:11 pm

I've used a Vista cruise control for some years on every 2 wheeler I've had and that would solve your right hand prob;

http://tinyurl.com/7em2m58

(Moderator editted to shorten link for better display on smaller monitors - www.tinyurl.com is a great tool)

Back to top Go down
Cosmic_Jumper
Touring Scooter Rider
Touring Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 303
Location: damn near Philadelphia, PA
Points: 1449
Registration date: 2009-06-12

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:22 pm

toolboxjesse wrote:
So I shopped around and found the Rostra kit and controller for about $243 including shipping. Then after I ordered i found a similar kit here for $240 (free shipping): http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=369 .


Shocked Wait a minute...You're gonna order something from someone named Murphy? Jeez, what could possibly go wrong? Wink
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:43 am

ulflyer wrote:
I've used a Vista cruise control for some years on every 2 wheeler I've had and that would solve your right hand prob;



I think that defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to do here, but thanks for your input.

Jesse
Back to top Go down
dspevack
Site Admin


Number of posts: 1147
Age: 47
Location: Miami, FL
Points: 2590
Registration date: 2008-12-27

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:28 am

I have an older style cruise control (no longer made) but on long drives it is a great tool for relaxing the hand and enjoying the ride. Good luck with it. I'm sure you'll have a blast.

Dan

_________________
I ride on two wheels cause I feel very unsafe on one wheel.
Dan in Miami. The king of custom! Check out my bike mods here
Reality is irrelevant. Its perception that counts.
Control people's perceptions, and you control their reality.
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:18 am

Dan- what type of cruise control are you referring to?
Back to top Go down
dspevack
Site Admin


Number of posts: 1147
Age: 47
Location: Miami, FL
Points: 2590
Registration date: 2008-12-27

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:38 am

It was an automotive cruise control made by magnavox, which a guru out in tennessee by the name of Joe wolfe installed for me several years ago.
Look at my album (linked in my sig) and you will see the cruise remote on my left handlebar. Look at the pic labeled "Collage 7 Dashboard".

Dan

_________________
I ride on two wheels cause I feel very unsafe on one wheel.
Dan in Miami. The king of custom! Check out my bike mods here
Reality is irrelevant. Its perception that counts.
Control people's perceptions, and you control their reality.
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:18 am

Oh very nice- That's what i have in mind. BTW there is a silicone cover available for $5.25 if you are interested- see above posting.
Back to top Go down
dspevack
Site Admin


Number of posts: 1147
Age: 47
Location: Miami, FL
Points: 2590
Registration date: 2008-12-27

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:52 am

The css 201 is exactly what I have.
Rostra may have made it for magnavox or vice versa. Not sure which.

You'll love it.

Dan

_________________
I ride on two wheels cause I feel very unsafe on one wheel.
Dan in Miami. The king of custom! Check out my bike mods here
Reality is irrelevant. Its perception that counts.
Control people's perceptions, and you control their reality.
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:27 pm

Dan- if I can ask - where do you rest your right hand with the CC on?
Back to top Go down
dspevack
Site Admin


Number of posts: 1147
Age: 47
Location: Miami, FL
Points: 2590
Registration date: 2008-12-27

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:16 pm

On the right grip. Adding the CC doesn't rotate the throttle the same way the gas pedal pulls away from your foot when your car cc accelerates.
So a loose grip thats just enough to keep the steering straight is all that's necessary.

Dan

_________________
I ride on two wheels cause I feel very unsafe on one wheel.
Dan in Miami. The king of custom! Check out my bike mods here
Reality is irrelevant. Its perception that counts.
Control people's perceptions, and you control their reality.
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:05 am

Just to give you an update- I received all of the parts and began my installation on Sunday morning. I removed pretty much every panel to gain access to the guts of the bike and I performed the mechanical installation of the cruise control. It tool me hours to figure out the best solution to add the cruise control cable to the existing throttle setup. I ended up filing down the part of "barrel" of the end of the throttle "puller" cable to allow the added CC cable to ride on it. I installed the control module where the ABS unit would go (since I don't have ABS, not sure how much room there would be for the module if i did have ABS) and put it all back together. Next weekend I need to finish the wiring and then perform whatever calibrations are required.

Jesse in Atlanta
Back to top Go down
toolboxjesse
Maxi-Scooter Rider
Maxi-Scooter Rider


Number of posts: 180
Age: 39
Location: Atlanta, GA
Points: 601
Registration date: 2011-05-13

PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:46 am

Grr!

Finally got the CC installed completely yesterday but there is no power to the unit. I checked all of the electrical connections and the unit seems to be getting power, but I am not getting any light to the self-diagnostic LED or the control module.

Well. I'll keep looking, but perhaps the unit was DOA.

Jesse
Back to top Go down
 

I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

 Similar topics

-
» cruiser80 '57 electronic ignition
» Sweegys cruise competition has changed! 8th January!
» STEP COURSES FROM SIEMENS (AUTOMATION AND CONTROL COURSES)
» I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control
» Cruise control for the silverwing?

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Honda Silver Wing Scooter Forum :: Honda Silver Wing :: Accessories & Modifications-