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PostSubject: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Fri 02 Dec 2011, 11:49

So since my 400 mile round trip over the weekend I have become near-obsessed with the idea of installing an electronic cruise control into my S'wing.

After doing some research i will most likely be installing the Rostra universal system, which doesn't rely on a vacuum source nor a tach source and should be pretty simple to install. (my only real concerns are if the throttle cable will be long enough to reach from the front of the bike (behind the headlights, no ABS module) to the throttle body and how much modification of the throttle cam is required for a reliable connection).

I am estimating parts at around $250 and perhaps maximum of 4 hours labor including removing all required panels. I hope to document everything (unless anybody has done so already).

Hopefully I'll have the parts and will do the work over holiday vacation.

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Jesse in Atlanta
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Fri 02 Dec 2011, 12:12

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Fri 02 Dec 2011, 16:15

Jesse, I'm with you on wanting a cruise control. It came on the Can Am and its fantastic. I ride a lot of open roads so the cruise is very useful.
Please document the process and also, if you will, where you got the parts.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat 03 Dec 2011, 07:29

Save your money. I have had one bike new that came with cruise control, a Kawasaki Voyager----problem, it may give a shot of gas just when you don't need it. Bikes fall down/slip, etc.

For nose picking, etc, I find Nep throttle stop fine-----Otherwise I prefer to be in control of bike/life and enjoy ride.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat 03 Dec 2011, 11:31

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat 03 Dec 2011, 13:32

My Voyager cruise control had no defect---but did/could make surge of power to maintain speed----not good when slippery, etc.

I guess I am just different type of rider and like to pay attention/enjoy the ride.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sat 03 Dec 2011, 13:43

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sun 04 Dec 2011, 07:26

john grinsel wrote:
Save your money. I have had one bike new that came with cruise control, a Kawasaki Voyager----problem, it may give a shot of gas just when you don't need it. Bikes fall down/slip, etc.

For nose picking, etc, I find Nep throttle stop fine-----Otherwise I prefer to be in control of bike/life and enjoy ride.


I had cruise control on my Goldwing, and My Harley Roadking and liked them both. if you are riding with a group you can't use them. I would like to have cruise on My Swing too.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Sun 04 Dec 2011, 07:50

I had an Australian cruise control on my ST1100 (McCruise?), it worked fine but had acomplicated linkage to the throttle and was not cheap in the UK. I could use a cruise control now and then but it would need to be easy to fit and cheapish !!
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon 05 Dec 2011, 07:03

So I shopped around and found the Rostra kit and controller for about $243 including shipping. Then after I ordered i found a similar kit here for $240 (free shipping): http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=369 .

From what i can tell the difference is the controller for the one I ordered is similar, but has 2 indicator lights on it- an "ON" light and a "CC Active" light whereas the Murph's kit one just has an "ON" light (although I believe the wiring of the kit allows a remote-mounted "active" light.
On the Murph's kit website i also found a silicone "Prophylaxis" that is supposed to fit over the controller and serve as a good water repellant. I ordered this and it was $5.25 including shipping. I still plan to disassemble the controller and squeeze some clear silicone into the cable entry and seam areas.
The Murph's site includes at least 2 installation instructions, one on a Kawasaki 4 cylinder and one on a BMW 4 cylinder.

What I have been trying to decide is where to place the control module, whether on the left handlebar, right handlebar, or somewhere in the middle, such as the center of the handlebar cover. I am also looking to find some kind of handrest for the right handlebar (that perhaps replaces the weighted bar end) so I will have a place to keep my right hand while the cruise control is active.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon 05 Dec 2011, 08:54

Jesse: I'd suggest mounting on the right side because the activate and speed up/down are on the right of the box, where your thumb could more easily touch them without looking. On the left, without looking, you're likely to be hitting the on/off button.

The mount looks like something that could easily be fashioned out of soft metal or preferably aluminum and cut so the box can be mounted as convenient as possible.

Please document and take pics. I've very much interested if it appears something I can do myself.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon 05 Dec 2011, 09:11

I didn't order the aluminum bracket- I'll probably end up making one myself.

The problem with mounting on the right side is that I would possibly have to take my hand off of the throttle to activate the cruise control, and the bike would immediately begin to slow down before the speed is set. If i mount on the left side I am afraid to take my hand off of that grip in case of a surge in speed. I guess I will try multiple mounting positions before I make a final decision.

Thanks for your input,

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon 05 Dec 2011, 17:11

I've used a Vista cruise control for some years on every 2 wheeler I've had and that would solve your right hand prob;

http://tinyurl.com/7em2m58

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon 05 Dec 2011, 22:22

toolboxjesse wrote:
So I shopped around and found the Rostra kit and controller for about $243 including shipping. Then after I ordered i found a similar kit here for $240 (free shipping): http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=369 .

Shocked Wait a minute...You're gonna order something from someone named Murphy? Jeez, what could possibly go wrong? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 07:43

ulflyer wrote:
I've used a Vista cruise control for some years on every 2 wheeler I've had and that would solve your right hand prob;


I think that defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to do here, but thanks for your input.

Jesse
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 10:28

I have an older style cruise control (no longer made) but on long drives it is a great tool for relaxing the hand and enjoying the ride. Good luck with it. I'm sure you'll have a blast.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 11:18

Dan- what type of cruise control are you referring to?
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 11:38

It was an automotive cruise control made by magnavox, which a guru out in tennessee by the name of Joe wolfe installed for me several years ago.
Look at my album (linked in my sig) and you will see the cruise remote on my left handlebar. Look at the pic labeled "Collage 7 Dashboard".

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 12:18

Oh very nice- That's what i have in mind. BTW there is a silicone cover available for $5.25 if you are interested- see above posting.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 13:52

The css 201 is exactly what I have.
Rostra may have made it for magnavox or vice versa. Not sure which.

You'll love it.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 15:27

Dan- if I can ask - where do you rest your right hand with the CC on?
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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Tue 06 Dec 2011, 17:16

On the right grip. Adding the CC doesn't rotate the throttle the same way the gas pedal pulls away from your foot when your car cc accelerates.
So a loose grip thats just enough to keep the steering straight is all that's necessary.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon 12 Dec 2011, 07:05

Just to give you an update- I received all of the parts and began my installation on Sunday morning. I removed pretty much every panel to gain access to the guts of the bike and I performed the mechanical installation of the cruise control. It tool me hours to figure out the best solution to add the cruise control cable to the existing throttle setup. I ended up filing down the part of "barrel" of the end of the throttle "puller" cable to allow the added CC cable to ride on it. I installed the control module where the ABS unit would go (since I don't have ABS, not sure how much room there would be for the module if i did have ABS) and put it all back together. Next weekend I need to finish the wiring and then perform whatever calibrations are required.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm planning to add Electronic cruise control   Mon 19 Dec 2011, 09:46

Grr!

Finally got the CC installed completely yesterday but there is no power to the unit. I checked all of the electrical connections and the unit seems to be getting power, but I am not getting any light to the self-diagnostic LED or the control module.

Well. I'll keep looking, but perhaps the unit was DOA.

Jesse
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