Tyre replacement

I thought i posted a message on the general site for info, or , advice on tyres but i cannot find it anywhere. Iam asking if anyone in UK has any advice regarding replacement tyres on my 07 swing. The present set of Bridgestones have done 6500. The rear needs replacing.Is this expected? or good.? I ask because i expect better mileage out of a set of tyres.When i rode my Deauville the recommended tyres where Michelin Pilots after the 90's and 100's where updated, i never got better than 4000mls out of them, after trial and error i found Avon Storms gave me 11000mls per set. anyone got any suggestions or experiance of alternative tyres. I ride all year round so i need a good all round tyre

You originally posted in 'parts and replacements'!! Before the UK section was commissioned.

I'd have a look at the new Wintec tyre that Black Fly mentioned - I did put a post up a couple of weeks ago about them. They are designed to be a year round tyre, which is nice.

Skippy wrote:

I'd have a look at the new Wintec tyre that Black Fly mentioned - I did put a post up a couple of weeks ago about them. They are designed to be a year round tyre, which is nice.

I certainly hope they're round!!!!!

Sorry just couldn't resist it!!

Old Limey

Just replaced tyres again on 2009 model 8000 miles all weather.

Front 8000 miles and rears 4000 - Bridgestone Hoops

I tend to use performance of Silverwing, hence mileage from tyres

Cheapest and quickest delivery by www.blackcircles.com - cracking service and prices

I also have 2008 Deauville and also fitted with Hoops - only 3400 miles in three years so no tyre replacement yet

Hope this helps

Bill

bill3862. I had 2 deauvilles. Are you sure your tyres are hoops . Honda were fitting Bridgstones but they were b20's. I thought hoops were only for scooters. I have now put on a hoop on the rear but, ithink i will try the Diabalos from Pirelli on the front which is due for changing soon

bill3862 wrote:

Cheapest and quickest delivery by www.blackcircles.com - cracking service and prices

Bill

Bill, I can endorse the delivery regards Black Circles .co.uk! They had two Hoops delivered for my Burger in under 24 hours. I was so impressed. Keeps the bike on the roads where it should be.

I had my rear tyre replaced a couple of days ago at 6200 miles on the clock.

The tread was almost down to the limit marker and although I may have managed another 500 miles or so I decided to change it in readiness for our M/C new club season - First short (120 miles or so) ride out is tomorrow.

I replaced the old Bridgestone Hoop 150 / 70 / 13 with a new Hoop.

The front tyre I reckon has another 2000 miles or so tread left on it.

Old Limey wrote:

bill3862. I had 2 deauvilles. Are you sure your tyres are hoops . Honda were fitting Bridgstones but they were b20's. I thought hoops were only for scooters. I have now put on a hoop on the rear but, ithink i will try the Diabalos from Pirelli on the front which is due for changing soon

Another senior moment !! You are quite correct and Deauville is fitted with B20's

Bill

On this subject, I am looking at some replacement rubber for the Swing, but I am not actually sure just how much work the tyres on it (Hoops) have done!

Strange question then... Anyone with new Bridgestone rubber please, who can tell me what depth of tread they come with when new?? Either in the groove, or on the wear line.

It may well be that the tyres will do a big trip, but I really am not sure

Steve R.
Most new tyres have 8mm of tread.Minimum legal tread in UK
Front 1.5 Rear 2.0 so i believe.

Old Limey wrote:

Steve R.
Most new tyres have 8mm of tread.Minimum legal tread in UK
Front 1.5 Rear 2.0 so i believe.

UK limits for motorcycles = 1.6mm

Old Limey wrote:

Steve R.
Most new tyres have 8mm of tread.Minimum legal tread in UK
Front 1.5 Rear 2.0 so i believe.

Thanks, so these are about half worn I reckon. 3-4mm in the centre of both, more on the lower edges at 5mm. I would be surprised if the Hoops had 8mm based on the edge and profile, but is so hard to tell from a worn tyre.

Looks like I had better get some more rubber ordered before my big trip I've seen Pirelli's at 43 quid, that'll do

Waspie wrote:

Old Limey wrote:

Steve R.
Most new tyres have 8mm of tread.Minimum legal tread in UK
Front 1.5 Rear 2.0 so i believe.

UK limits for motorcycles = 1.6mm

Tons of wear left, but not sure if there is 3k miles left, Waspie!

It is a right pain to start and sort punctures or new rubber when on holiday, you can soon lose half a day messing around i found the once after getting a blow out in Germany!

I stand corrected Waspie. I must have been thinking of the tread i consider safe SteveR. I would suggest that if your tyres have more tread at the edge, the last owner didn't like banking over for the bends

Old Limey wrote:

I stand corrected Waspie. I must have been thinking of the tread i consider safe SteveR. I would suggest that if your tyres have more tread at the edge, the last owner didn't like banking over for the bends

ROFL!!

Not a problem I suffer from, however, the previous owner has just moved to a Triumph cruiser, all 2300cc of it, sure can't lean that one much from the look of it, and god help you if it fell over in a car park...

Old Limey wrote:

I stand corrected Waspie. I must have been thinking of the tread i consider safe SteveR. I would suggest that if your tyres have more tread at the edge, the last owner didn't like banking over for the bends

All I quoted was the UK legal limit as laid down. Personal limits are another thing. I like loads of tread as the UK is a tad damp most of the year. (Not withstanding the current trend). Lets be honest, most races are rode on slicks!!! Would you trust your machine on slicks in a deluge? I think not.

Ref, wear across the tyre, after 6 to 7k, my Bridgestones are pretty worn in the centre, whilst there is a little more on the outside. It must be a known phenomena as I was reading some of the tyre threads on here and one company actually produce a duel compound tyre for this very reason.

Choices - choices. Ride hard, ride soft, Oh me Oh my.

Sod it - just RIDE!!

Ah well, all adds to the debate.

Very dissapointed.....just had to replace my Michelin rear tyre after 3500 miles. Usually get about 6000 from Hoops

3.5k miles IS a tad poor.

Like you I get aprox 6-7k from Hoops.

What was the grip like on the Michelins?

I also only got about 3500 miles on my first rear michelin pilot. On my next set of pilots I inflated the rear tire to 40psi and I had over 4000 miles before I replaced it due to a puncture, still with at least 1000 miles left on the tread. My 3rd rear Pilot is up to 6000 miles and is just about ready to be changed. The front pilot has been in place for that whole time, and I plan to change both front and rear with the Michelin Power Pure SC tires, maybe over this weekend if i have the time. They claim extended tread life due to a harder center section, but we'll see. I like keeping the tires at 40 psi. It does give a harsher ride but longer tread life is pretty much guaranteed.

Jesse

Tires-----first look at decal under seat----Honda tested and recommmend I think are Hoops or IRC.
Found Hoops wore square in rear....maybe 8,000 mile life....but IRC worked and wore better and stayed round. Having gone thru 250-400 tires since 1955, I find sticking with makers recommendation pretty good period. I do own tire work.

I, of course have played around sometimes thinking I am smarter than Honda or others, sometimes on price---Right now now Michelin Power SC on rear of my Burgman 400...will not last as long as Hoop, Had horrible handling/wet problems with Diablo matched set. Can go on and on, Avon on my Concours almost killed me at 35 degress F in the wet in Germany, more than once.

Give IRC a try, Also Hoop in compound for Burgman 400, might work good on SilverWing----I think Suzuki found out Burgman is foul handling and specified softer compound.

Waspie wrote:

3.5k miles IS a tad poor.

Like you I get aprox 6-7k from Hoops.

What was the grip like on the Michelins?

I didn't find the grip anything special....mind you, with all the rain we've had in the uk I didn't get much riding in this year.

rogerscoot wrote:

Waspie wrote:

3.5k miles IS a tad poor.

Like you I get aprox 6-7k from Hoops.

What was the grip like on the Michelins?

I didn't find the grip anything special....mind you, with all the rain we've had in the uk I didn't get much riding in this year.

Thanks, I'll stick to Hoops.

I got ~ 6000mls on the Hoops and I thought that grip etc was fine so I have replaced with same, I even think that the price is OK after coming from bikes !

The IRC that came with my Swing gave me 20k kl, but is not is not sold here.

bikerboy wrote:

I got ~ 6000mls on the Hoops and I thought that grip etc was fine so I have replaced with same, I even think that the price is OK after coming from bikes !

The same feeling here! Still the original tire on the front (05) with 16k on it. It still looks fine tread wise, but small cracks are appearing on the sidewall, so im going to replace it this winter with the same hoop tire. The rear tire was replaced by previous owner.